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gwyn_r

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Jul 02, 2010 11:59

I really don't want to wade into the shitstorm around VVC (lather, rinse, repeat). I'm really sad at seeing people I care about being attacked all over LJ, especially by people who have never/will never have anything to do with the con but feel compelled to dogpile on whatever train wreck they can, even though they offer nothing of constructive ( Read more... )

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gwyn_r July 3 2010, 06:53:53 UTC

Thanks for this. I can assure you, some people don't think of it as perspective, and are just more pissed off (I don't think they actually read the whole post, but you can't make people do that). I know what you mean about the urge to be done. Right now, I'm seriously thinking about gafiating. This whole thing is just too much, at this point.

kita0610 July 2 2010, 21:12:40 UTC

Yeah, I don't know about the warnings thing, but the disgusting, vile comments around disability and accessibility are enough to make me vomit.

So you know. If you're seeing anger, there's a reason.

unovis July 2 2010, 21:38:01 UTC

Thanks for posting this. I didn't begin attending Vividcon until three years ago (tried, but work always got in the way). I think personal experience and anecdote is valuable.

Sorry you won't be there this year.

gwyn_r July 3 2010, 06:56:29 UTC

I know -- in some ways, I really do wish I could be there (and also, I really wanted to talk with you about jewelry!!), but in others, I think it's a really good thing. I am so, so sick of so many people right now... I don't know if the good would outweigh the bad. I think it might but... it seems HARD right now!

kirbyfest July 2 2010, 22:01:07 UTC

Thank you.

I'm not sorry I'm missing this year, either, other than missing the people. And if you're not there, anyway, you're one of the people I'd have been missing. :)

gwyn_r July 3 2010, 06:59:44 UTC

You know, money was the primary hurdle, but there was also the added factor of knowing you wouldn't be there, nor would Merry, Seah, and Margie again. Since at this point I want to mostly come for people, that has a huge weight to me.

I really do wonder what the next year holds, if I'll even be here. I'm always going to be a fan, but every part of my fannish life right now is surrounded by unpleasant shitstorms (even BPAL for crying out loud) that I think a long break is in order).

p_zeitgeist July 3 2010, 15:45:25 UTC

Thank you. This is fascinating and tremendously useful -- it's great to see this (I think important and under-known) history laid out so clearly, and of course it only adds to the value that it's the account of a person who was, you know, actually there.

gwyn_r July 4 2010, 18:43:47 UTC

Thank you! I think that a lot of this has just gotten lost, and unfortunately, a lot of newer fans just really don't care, so a lot of this will continue to disappear as people leave fandom or...well, die. Whatever shakes out, it has to be done with perspective and involvement from everyone, but I think many people just... they can't see that.