Utopian Math

Dec 02, 2010 12:12

Last year the GDP of the United States was roughly 14T.

Which worked out to about $46K in gross domestic production for every man, woman and child, assuming that earnings were 100% socialized across all citizens (and closed borders prevented illegal immigration from the countries bordering ours with per capita income of $14K and $38K.)

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economics, unicorns, debt

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ytterbius December 2 2010, 18:26:04 UTC
I want my mountaintop estate, and I don't care what I've gotta do, or who I've got to destroy, to get it. If they can't defend themselves from me then they are losers by definition and they (and their children) deserve their poverty.

- a capitalist.

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

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gwendally December 2 2010, 18:36:45 UTC
What about educating your children? What if you have very bright children, brighter than the average, and they could benefit from learned instructors? Maybe even medical school. Do you want THAT? It's a bit outside the means of most families to save up the $200K it costs for med school out of their discretionary $15K, but it's possible. And at the end you'll have someone who is able to earn... uh... exactly the same as if they had never saved to go to college.

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abz6598 December 2 2010, 20:49:51 UTC
Forget it...you cant reason with that ilk or their fellow travellers.

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ytterbius December 3 2010, 01:02:22 UTC
You you want me to respond as my capitalist character, or tell you what I really think? I was kinda joking. :)

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gwendally December 3 2010, 15:15:16 UTC
Oh, I knew you were joking. You don't think it's reasonable to want a castle on a mountaintop.

So my question is, do you want ANYTHING that is not a wish shared by the majority of Americans? I mean, most Americans don't go to college, right? So if you have individual goals that reflect your values you'd be just as strange to most Americans as someone who has goals that don't reflect YOUR values, right?

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ytterbius December 3 2010, 22:36:31 UTC
Actually, I am to a great extent really capitalist, though the anarcho-capitalist version really does make me quite sick, and I see alot more of them than I see communists (on the web, at least).

I've got no problem with individual goals, I have my own, and I understand how they drive people to efforts that secondarily can benefit others.

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gwendally December 3 2010, 15:16:30 UTC
I just changed "mountaintop estate" to "children to be educated" and it was just as much fun.

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