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viktorialee September 27 2006, 16:49:52 UTC
Of course, no one has anything better to do than tell me how to live me life. My life, my choices, my responsiblity.

I think I may be able to see it in schools, where kids aren't given a choice of what to eat (OK - there's some choice there but most can't choose to leave campus if there's nothing healthy and fresh in the cafeteria). But when there's a choice, then I can choose to eat food cooked with trans-fats or not.

And get off the cigarette kick. You used to be the same way about alcohol - remember?

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shammers September 27 2006, 18:22:02 UTC
Yea, Mike! Why would you think cigarettes are bad.. lol!

/sarcasm

In my opinion, there are still too many places where victims of secondhand smoke shouldn't be exposed to it but are. The bans are a step in the right direction...

now if only those parents who smoke with their windows up and a child in a back carseat slowly dying...a ban on their lives seems appropriate.. >_>

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gumby_145 September 27 2006, 18:51:17 UTC
I absolutely knew this post would draw a comment from you, Sam lol.

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ilikea September 27 2006, 17:34:43 UTC
Also, have you ever considered what it would mean to go against multi-billion dollar companies??? It's not just that the government doesn't WANT to stop it, it's that it would be a HUGE PAIN IN THE ASS to actually do so. It is unfortunate that everyone is sort of refusing to really try, but think of all those "loyal" (heavily addicted) customers. Those people would throw a shit-fit too. There's a lot going into this. Plus, I mean, concenting adults have the right to do to their body whatever they wish ( ... )

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gumby_145 September 27 2006, 17:52:28 UTC
actually I am in full agreement that a person has every right to treat their body however the hell they want so long as they aren't infringing on another person's right to comfort. I think this ban is a very stupid and wrong thing to do. But I also think that if we ARE going to start forcing people to treat themselves well, there are better targets than trans fat.

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gumby_145 September 28 2006, 02:12:41 UTC
I saw that. That wasn't the point I was making. As I said, the cigarette ban in restaraunts is not the same thing, because it was made with the intent of protecting people other than the consumers of the banned product. This is a ban to protect the actual consumers of the banned product, which I think is fully fucking stupid to begin with, but if they were to do something like that, they should pick a better product than trans fat oils. Apparently, you need to read my lj post better lol =P

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gumby_145 September 28 2006, 11:51:51 UTC
ok you do make a good point there. And, no I haven't researched any statistics, I was going on a general hunch that way more people have died from smoking related problems than heart disease from obesity. I still feel that's correct, and would be willing to put money on it.

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lindledr October 3 2006, 05:53:31 UTC
Whoever is at the top of this thread is a dumbshit. Preach brother! Fuck smoking and fuck trans-fat. So my brother has morals. Good ones. Alcohol is bad and I myself wish I would have never started drinking it, but I did and now I'm fat. But I haven't smoked cigarettes and don't plan on it. It's a terrible and disgusting habit. And I think if Mike wants to bash on it, then all I have to say is "freedom of speech mother fucker!" Bash smoking till the sun comes up goddamnit!

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