ok yeah this wasn't even going to be an intro post and now it's my position on everyone in hockey

Aug 29, 2013 20:46

Hellooooo livejournal! As is my annual tradition now, I'm posting right after I went to the US Open. XDD But I don't have pictures yet so I'll post ABOUT the US Open some other time.

I've recently made a bunch of new friends through the friending meme/prompt challenge post at home-ice. I kind of got the impression that a lot of people like me came out of ( Read more... )

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biggersandwich August 30 2013, 23:19:58 UTC
Yeah, the closest I usually manage is that I want some teams to win more than others because I care more about how sad their players are.

Sure. :)

Ahaha, truth.

I see where you're coming from, and I can do that generally, if I think about it as situational? Like, Johnny is super driven and focused and I couldn't read fic where he explicitly ducked out of all his important obligations to cuddle with Cal, but I could definitely read shorter fic that focused on the cuddling. I can believe that there are times when Johnny might rather be petted and called ridiculous things than do anything else, and it doesn't mean that at other times he doesn't want to be serious and driven.

Also, because I will read all the fic about virtually anyone, I tend to think in terms of at least matching part of someone's characterisation to the trope? To use Johnny as an example yet again, I just don't understand the appeal of using him for a trope about e.g. being sloppy and careless as a matter of routine, when that's never seemed to be any part of his character, and there are lots of other people who fit it better, if the trope is what you care about.

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guingel August 31 2013, 00:13:13 UTC
Yeah, that makes sense - you'd have to simplify with short fic anyway! I guess it's something where I see other people complain, like "uuuuuugh this fic just uses all these cliches (i've been searching for that word this whole time) and uuuugh it's so OOC" and I totally see where they're coming from, but if the fic is hot enough, the things that seem to bother most of my friends don't really bother me that much.

I'm totes on the same page with matching to the trope though - especially given how many options there are in hockey! It's quite different from other fandoms for me - especially tv show fandoms with about five characters, of course.

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biggersandwich August 31 2013, 00:48:44 UTC
That's fair! I'm just super picky about porn, so I'm a lot more likely to be meh about it and busy noticing the cliches, though if it works for someone else, more power to them!

True, though I think a lot of my favourite tropes are more "something happens" tropes, so it's more about how would X react differently than Y anyway, even when there's only a few options.

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guingel August 31 2013, 01:48:08 UTC
You know, I bet that's it! I am way less picky about porn - the pornier something is, the less picky I am. Or, well, that's only if there are kinks I like, really. It's to the point where I mentally separate between written erotica and written porn, where erotica might contain porny bits, but it's the content of the story that matters and makes everything hot. Whereas porn the characters don't really matter and I'll read original works and stuff that is pretty badly written and totally enjoy it. (I know in the world of fanfic we'll say porn for anything with smut, but I think in general use, a lot of people use porn for video and erotica for writing and that is definitely giving too much credit to some of the stuff I read!!)

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biggersandwich August 31 2013, 02:28:39 UTC
I know what you mean, because I've definitely read tons of stuff where it was totally OOC or cliche or whatever and I didn't care because HOT. I'm just really picky about what hot means. Which is totally my problem and more a question of idiosyncrasies than quality, I will readily admit.

I've never thought to distinguish between porn and erotica, to be honest, unless we mean visual vs. written. Porn sounds filthier, I suppose, but I've read so many delightfully filthy things, which also went to the trouble of establishing contrast and character. Ymmv, obviously.

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guingel August 31 2013, 02:48:02 UTC
Yeah, it's more a distinction that I just make in my head, and it's more about me acknowledging that whatever I'm reading has no artistic value beyond its ability to get me off, haha. Whereas what I'd categorize as erotica can also totally get me off and be full of filth, but it'll have some quality of plot or character development or emotional content. (Although the non-fanfic porn I read is always operating at an extremely high filth content.)

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