OH MY GOD. JUST READ THE COMIC AND AM HAPPILY FLIPPING A SHIT BECAUSE IT IS PERFECT AND BEAUTIFUL, AND THE LAST TWO PAGES, ALDKFJALKDJFLADJFLAJDFK.
Like, I don't even feel the need to fic this issue because the Spuffy (and the Buffy & Dawn, Buffy & Robin, Nikki & Crowley, Spike & Dowling, EVERYTHING ELSE) already makes me so happy! (Still writing
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It was really nice to see their affability! They seemed so cold and remote toward each other by the end of S7 (which totally made sense in that context, of course, but it's nice to see that they can move past it, too).
I can't help but think that Giles or her mom were the first people she would have wanted to talk to in this situation.
Definitely her mom, but I'd probably put Dawn and maybe Spike before Giles (post S7, at least; I didn't read S8 and don't know much about the Buffy & Giles relationship, although the fact that he left everything to Faith doesn't give me any confidence). Ergh, it's still so frustrating to think that he's dead. I mean, not that I was a particular fan of his anymore, but I want him to be there for Buffy! Which is actually how I think about "The Body," too; I don't care about Joyce herself so much as I care about Buffy losing her mother.
Alaric? With Buffy? But as a parental figure? Hmm. Maybe I haven't seen enough of TVD, b/c I definitely see that particular duo as more with the sexy times. Mmm, mental images of naked!Alaric...
women's groups are going to crucify Joss for showing abortion in a negative light.
Even though I would agree with that particular sentiment, I hate how politicized this is going to become; no matter which way the decision goes, some group or other will get up in arms, and the mainstream media will get its grubby paws all over it, and people who are neither BtVS fans nor comics fans will use it for their soapbox. :(
I don't know if it's circumstance or Buffy herself that will decide against it, but somehow the abortion won't happen.
I agree, especially in light of the recent Joss + Chambliss review that says "The whole thing isn’t going to be, well, normal." What else can that mean but that it's somehow a mystical pregnancy and she can't abort. UGH.
the comics make it SO DAMN EASY to be a Spike fan, and this scene encapsulates WHY we ship Spuffy - the compassion, understanding, and acceptance that Buffy gets from nowhere else.
YES. Okay, this is petty of me, but I love how if a BtVS virgin started reading S9 right now and you mentioned the name Angel, they wouldn't know who the eff you were talking about and would be like, "Duh, Spike's her soulmate. Wait, are you saying Buffy's bi? She was with a girl named Angel?" :D
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My big issue with Joyce is "Becoming II" when she tells her daughter not to come home. That's pretty much unforgivable in my book, and I have a hard time respecting her anytime else. I've mellowed a lot over the years and now when I rewatch I try to look at situations from the maligned characters' POV, so I'd probably appreciate her more on a second run-through. I just don't care to try to find reasons to like her.
What a disservice to the characters and the story at large!
Yup yup yup. I'm trying to be optimistic and give Joss the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard because (a) the waiting period between issues is so long and (b) after what he did with pregnancy on AtS, I just don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt!
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And that's why I can kind of see myself forgiving her and overlooking it if I watched the early seasons again (goodness knows I love other characters for far worse crimes!), but I don't think I could ever love her or call her a great mother the way some fans do; relative to mothers I've known in real life and other mothers in fiction, I just don't think she's a shining example of one.
But, man, have you seen Joyce smashing the hell out of that zombie with a baseball bat in Dead Man's Party? How can you not respect her after that? ;)
Meh, I've never rewatched that episode because of how the characters jump all over Buffy. If I respect her for anything, it's definitely with her axe in "School Hard." That's awesome.
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I'll make sure to. :)
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