Flipping a Shit (Happily)
OH MY GOD. JUST READ THE COMIC AND AM HAPPILY FLIPPING A SHIT BECAUSE IT IS PERFECT AND BEAUTIFUL, AND THE LAST TWO PAGES, ALDKFJALKDJFLADJFLAJDFK.
Like, I don't even feel the need to fic this issue because the Spuffy (and the Buffy & Dawn, Buffy & Robin, Nikki & Crowley, Spike & Dowling, EVERYTHING ELSE) already makes me so happy! (Still writing ( Read more... )
Like, I don't even feel the need to fic this issue because the Spuffy (and the Buffy & Dawn, Buffy & Robin, Nikki & Crowley, Spike & Dowling, EVERYTHING ELSE) already makes me so happy! (Still writing ( Read more... )
Didn't notice that . . . very good eye. (Then again, I was reading it at double speed at midnight after a long day, so the only extraordinary thing I noticed was Nikki's giant Marvin Gaye poster).
SPIKE AND DOWLING ARE SO GREAT TOGETHER! I WOULD TOTES BE OKAY IF BUFFY AND SPIKE HAD A THREESOME WITH HIM.
I'm loving all the happy Dowling feels everyone's having! They can have a threesome in the treehouse Mari wants Dowling, Koh and Andrew to build!
I love that he recognizes how his mother and Buffy are different and would approach child-rearing differently.
Yes. Robin was all together more likable here than he was in the series. He takes Buffy seriously, and offers good advice.
Would Giles have reacted the same way as Crowley (only obviously out of parental love)? I think he would have.
I can't help but think that Giles or her mom were the first people she would have wanted to talk to in this situation. Poor Buffy! No parental figures! I say we get Alaric from The Vampire Diaries and move him to San Francisco!
My heart breaks for Buffy at the end, and I LOVE that she recognizes and admits that the reasons she's not ready to have a baby are because of her ordinary human circumstances- because it means someday down the line, if she felt more stable in her job, home, etc., she could have a baby regardless of the slaying. Obviously mileage varies in fan opinion of Buffy-as-mother, but personally I think she'd be really good at it, and I've never gotten the impression that Buffy would dislike having kids (worry about it because of slaying? Sure, definitely, but not want kids on principle? No; I don't see that at all), so the fact that this issue basically affirms the idea that Buffy is open to the idea of being a mother MAKES ME REALLY HAPPY.
That's very true. It's the Buffy part that is worried about raising a baby, not the slayer. And good point about her wanting children someday down the line - it's a future she couldn't dream of earlier in her life, and now the reality that she has choices now has her in the face.
I do want Buffy to have the baby because of DADDY SPIKE and BABY FIC, but it would be a bold choice to have her go through with the abortion. However, some poster on Buffyforums mentioned that if Buffy regrets her decision and isn't confident and happy after the abortion, women's groups are going to crucify Joss for showing abortion in a negative light. So I don't think the abortion will actually happen. I don't know if it's circumstance or Buffy herself that will decide against it, but somehow the abortion won't happen.
THOSE LAST PAGES THOUGH. I said last night that the comics make it SO DAMN EASY to be a Spike fan, and this scene encapsulates WHY we ship Spuffy - the compassion, understanding, and acceptance that Buffy gets from nowhere else.
And I think if they have the baby, it will be a girl, too.
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It was really nice to see their affability! They seemed so cold and remote toward each other by the end of S7 (which totally made sense in that context, of course, but it's nice to see that they can move past it, too).
I can't help but think that Giles or her mom were the first people she would have wanted to talk to in this situation.
Definitely her mom, but I'd probably put Dawn and maybe Spike before Giles (post S7, at least; I didn't read S8 and don't know much about the Buffy & Giles relationship, although the fact that he left everything to Faith doesn't give me any confidence). Ergh, it's still so frustrating to think that he's dead. I mean, not that I was a particular fan of his anymore, but I want him to be there for Buffy! Which is actually how I think about "The Body," too; I don't care about Joyce herself so much as I care about Buffy losing her mother.
Alaric? With Buffy? But as a parental figure? Hmm. Maybe I haven't seen enough of TVD, b/c I definitely see that particular duo as more with the sexy times. Mmm, mental images of naked!Alaric...
women's groups are going to crucify Joss for showing abortion in a negative light.
Even though I would agree with that particular sentiment, I hate how politicized this is going to become; no matter which way the decision goes, some group or other will get up in arms, and the mainstream media will get its grubby paws all over it, and people who are neither BtVS fans nor comics fans will use it for their soapbox. :(
I don't know if it's circumstance or Buffy herself that will decide against it, but somehow the abortion won't happen.
I agree, especially in light of the recent Joss + Chambliss review that says "The whole thing isn’t going to be, well, normal." What else can that mean but that it's somehow a mystical pregnancy and she can't abort. UGH.
the comics make it SO DAMN EASY to be a Spike fan, and this scene encapsulates WHY we ship Spuffy - the compassion, understanding, and acceptance that Buffy gets from nowhere else.
YES. Okay, this is petty of me, but I love how if a BtVS virgin started reading S9 right now and you mentioned the name Angel, they wouldn't know who the eff you were talking about and would be like, "Duh, Spike's her soulmate. Wait, are you saying Buffy's bi? She was with a girl named Angel?" :D
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My big issue with Joyce is "Becoming II" when she tells her daughter not to come home. That's pretty much unforgivable in my book, and I have a hard time respecting her anytime else. I've mellowed a lot over the years and now when I rewatch I try to look at situations from the maligned characters' POV, so I'd probably appreciate her more on a second run-through. I just don't care to try to find reasons to like her.
What a disservice to the characters and the story at large!
Yup yup yup. I'm trying to be optimistic and give Joss the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard because (a) the waiting period between issues is so long and (b) after what he did with pregnancy on AtS, I just don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt!
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And that's why I can kind of see myself forgiving her and overlooking it if I watched the early seasons again (goodness knows I love other characters for far worse crimes!), but I don't think I could ever love her or call her a great mother the way some fans do; relative to mothers I've known in real life and other mothers in fiction, I just don't think she's a shining example of one.
But, man, have you seen Joyce smashing the hell out of that zombie with a baseball bat in Dead Man's Party? How can you not respect her after that? ;)
Meh, I've never rewatched that episode because of how the characters jump all over Buffy. If I respect her for anything, it's definitely with her axe in "School Hard." That's awesome.
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I'll make sure to. :)
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