[picspam] Road Not Taken confrontation scene

Jun 15, 2010 00:23

Found this lovely Olivia-centric vid in YouTube and wanted to share. It's Olivia kicking ass and taking names in season 1.

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Also, I've come to the conclusion that if, for whatever reason, I landed in a middle of a gunfight I would be sticking by Olivia like industrial glue. I have never seen anyone so fierce in a gunfight like Olivia ( Read more... )

tv: fringe, olivia dunham

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beccatoria June 14 2010, 18:24:25 UTC
Ahaha! Awesome - that's my youtube upload! I did it for my rec post ages ago but YouTube has a copyright claim on them that means I can't embed them elsewhere so I had to go with Vimeo for the actual post. I'm glad people are finding that stuff since I couldn't find it when I first went looking (hence the uploading).

Also, speaking of weird coincidences, firstly, that was a great vid, but also, I do not lie when I say that after I finish up a TSCC vid, my next project will be a Fringe vid and an Olivia vid to Three Doors Down is pretty high up on the list of ones to do first. *facepalm* OH OLIVIA, why do you seem so viddable to earnest 90s rock?

In other news, it's no surprise I love everything you say about Olivia and Walter here. The way the show simultaneously evokes empathy for Walter and condemns him is something I find very poignant and well-handled but also when it started not just presenting us with that complex version of Walter but allowing Olivia to be the one reminding us - very personally and very painfully - just how culpable Walter was in what's going on, it kind of took it to another level. I don't think many shows would do that or do that as well as this one.

Alias is a good example - while I saw most of that show, I didn't see it all though and it was many years ago by now, so I apologise if I'm remembering incorrectly. But even though there are many similarities, Jack, though interesting, did not have Walter's level of character complexity and Sydney, as you say, had a very different approach to the whole thing.

I have seen some people say that they think Olivia is distant and cold, and I guess I understand why, because she is so controlled. But personally I love that about her. I think that as they clarify in Jacksonville, she channels a lot of her fear into anger, but not blind fury. And not into "cold" anger either, because that's often associated with cruelty. It's more like...motivational anger. She doesn't deny how much it hurts her or how angry she is, but she also doesn't let it control her or drive her to cruelty. The control of it, I suppose, is why some people find her distant or cold or unrelatable, but I love her for it. The way I love that she is able to put aside what Walter did to her and let him do it again, because the way the facts have played out, that's just the way it has to be if she wants to save a building full of people, but never mistakes her consent as forgiveness and never allows anyone else to do so either.

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grimorie June 14 2010, 23:30:13 UTC
Hee! Really? So that's why I was like, hey, this account has the scenes I like! Thank you so much for uploading!

You're planning on making a Fringe vid??? My glee, I cannot express it!

it started not just presenting us with that complex version of Walter but allowing Olivia to be the one reminding us - very personally and very painfully - just how culpable Walter was in what's going on, it kind of took it to another level. I don't think many shows would do that or do that as well as this one.

Agreed and to have Fringe do that consistently was surprising. I didn't expect it from a show like this, in any other show someone like Walter would be woobified to the extent that his crimes would be forgotten, not in Fringe and not if Olivia (and Peter) has anything to say about it. And I love that the show itself is on Olivia's side, that I don't feel like there is a conflicting message about it.

It's more like...motivational anger. She doesn't deny how much it hurts her or how angry she is, but she also doesn't let it control her or drive her to cruelty. The control of it, I suppose, is why some people find her distant or cold or unrelatable, but I love her for it.

Very much agreed. It's this control of anger that makes her so formidable. And, yes, the way she can put her anger aside when needed is simply fantastic. She can work around all her reservations and anger but it doesn't mean any kind of forgiveness when she agrees to Walter's experiments.

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beccatoria June 15 2010, 18:13:06 UTC
You're welcome! It was just an account I opened last year to upload a few video files for a fan editing project I completed under a pseudonym and I couldn't use my regular streaming places for like...two of the files for various boring reasons. So when I needed to upload some Fringe stuff I kind of...remembered I still had it and probably had written down the password somewhere! Anyway, I'm glad it's seeing some use beyond just being a graveyard for aborted attempts at embedding clips. :)

As to vids, YAY! Yes, I have been planning on vidding Fringe for a while actually, it's just I'm currently entangled in a VIDWAR with chaila43, so I gotta kick her ass for a bit first. ;) But after that, Fringe is top of the list to vid, I'm just...still torn about which idea to go with. My Big Damn Olivia Vid is what I really want to make, but I think I should wait until the first few episodes of season three because considering the themes of the hypothetical vid, I think I might get some golden footage if I hang on a while.

I didn't expect it from a show like this, in any other show someone like Walter would be woobified to the extent that his crimes would be forgotten,

Absolutely, and honestly, if it was just Peter holding him responsible I also think it would have a high chance of coming across as woobification (or at least potentially so) because it would play into the way TV and fandom love them a good angsty father-son relationship so it would just play into that, whereas bringing Olivia into it is a really inspired way of making what Walter did real in a way that can't be written off.

She can work around all her reservations and anger but it doesn't mean any kind of forgiveness when she agrees to Walter's experiments.

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grimorie June 16 2010, 11:04:22 UTC
The embedded clips have really been helpful! I've used it twice now to show a particular clip to my sister, who is also, now very much hooked into the series!

The vidwar! I've been watching both sides and enjoying them (and really failing at feedback, which actually just amount to: *flaaaaail*).

I think I should wait until the first few episodes of season three because considering the themes of the hypothetical vid, I think I might get some golden footage if I hang on a while.

Ooh. I understand that! Especially if the upcoming episodes show an even more awesome Olivia moment!

whereas bringing Olivia into it is a really inspired way of making what Walter did real in a way that can't be written off.

Exactly! That! Other showrunners should sit down and made to watch how characters like Walter be written.

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