Gyaaaah, I have so many crazy theories for Pandy Hearts I think I'm going to need to write a big long journal before I explode @-@
I never thought of Jack hurting Gil... Oooo that ties in with the idea that he may have killed Alice! @-@ Jacky boy, what could you be up to? I also sort of wonder if Glen was one of the followers of 'Yura's religion, and that the Tragedy was a way for him to see Lacie again, since Jack mentioned that Glen thought Abyss was a place of bright lights. It seems to be, too, because that's where the Baskervilles got their immortality, from those bright lights. But then was the Abyss Oz visited really a false Abyss? And what role does 'Will of Abyss play in all of it?
I digress! I personally think Oz's sin has something to do with what's happening to him now (mooore theories XD;), and that maybe Reo is either Glen reborn or his next vessel? When the HeadHunter events started I pretty much started thinking that Eliot's nightmares were connected to those rather than the Tragedy, and I still think that, but maybe being connected to Humpty Dumpty let's him see some of Glen's memories? Oz has seen some of Alice's, after all (OR HAS HE? *THEORIES*)
As for Chains breaking contracts, if Gil or Zai's Blood Seal Mirror's were broken, then their contracts with Raven and Gryphon would be gone, which I assume will happen (which sucks; Gil, use Raven more before he get's taken! ... Unless you're still Glen's vessel somehow?)
SO MANY QUESTIONS! I should stay up and rant, but I have work in 4 hours XDD CURSE YOU PANDY HEARTS! ilu
::laughs:: I know how you feel . . . I meant to just write down a few questions, but ended up with this huge long list covering everything I wasn't sure about, and touching on more than a few things I was speculating about.
I . . . don't really think that Jack killed Alice; I think that Vincent is a much more likely suspect, given that he hated Alice and is always playing with scissors (the apparent murder weapon). But then, gods know this series has managed to surprise me before.
::interested:: I don't recall much about the "bright lights," beyond Jack saying that of the Abyss. Where does it mention that the Baskervilles thus got their immortality? For some reason I thought it might be associated with their chains, or with Glen (who doesn't seem to play by quite the same rules as everyone else). Presumably Glen has at least been somewhat into the Abyss; the man had five chains, after all, and as I recall when Gil got Raven there was nary a bright light to be seen, and a whole lot of dark.
It remains to be seen if Reo has more to do with what's going on beyond his association with Elliot and the orphanage (although all this is linked in with the present storyline it otherwise doesn't seem linked directly to the business with Glen). Although I admit that possibility has occurred to me before, and remains in the back of my thoughts somewhere. But I don't think Humpty Dumpty has any particular association with Glen, so I don't think it would have any connection to Glen's memories, unless mere traffic with the creatures of the Abyss can give access to those.
::mutter:: Somebody's gonna have to break Break's Seal Mirror before the man dies. I mean, Break not having his huge Awesome Power would suck, but not having Break would suck more.
That always seems to be the case XDD I think I should just give up; I can't write out one theory without having to explain a dozen others, haha XDD
Vincent is a big maybe on that one; it wouldn't surprise me XDD But that assumption was more based on the way Jack acts around Alice and with the most recent developments with Alice and her 'pointless' comments. Still, it's one of the iffy ones, more that it popped to mind and stuck XDD
The bright lights thing was mentioned in Chapter 51 :3 Lily said she saw a golden light while wandering through the woods, and went on to explain that members of the Baskerville house are people who have accepted the particles of light and become 'Messengers Chosen by Abyss'. Lotti said 'Those who are chosen by the light are said to have an acceptional affinity with the Abyss' and are drawn to Glen/made loyal to Glen. I would imagine it was those lights that made them immortal, as it was obviously something from Abyss that made them that way since Mad Hatter is the only one that can destroy them.
Well if Humpty Dumpty are past Glen vessels then there is always the possibility they could be connected to his memories; we know they're all connected to each other in some way, or all contractors wouldn't feel it's power in use no matter which contractor was using it at the time (i.e. Phillipe was in pain when other Children were using Humpty Dumpty). But we haven't been told exactly how memories work in the PH world... We DO know that, apparently, everything that has ever happened in history has been written into Abyss, which was why Yura wanted to recreate the Tragedy to force Abyss to open, but that's not to say that those memories can be picked up by just anyone... God! So confusing! XDD
I think the fact Reo wrote 'Lacie' is was clenched it for me, to be honest XDD Though like someone else said, he could always be connected to Lacie herself (who invented the song first), but since we don't know much about her other than the fact she was sacrificed to Abyss and was important to Glen, I sort of avoid her; too easy to make up stuff for her when she's pretty much a blank canvas XDD
Ahhh, but that would be far too smart! XDD Though I suppose Break would never let them do that... He wanted a reason to live and his reason became fulfilling WoA's wish, and Mad Hatter is probably a means to that end. Then again, he really didn't care about WoA when he thought he was gonna die... Smash it Break! The series needs you! D8
(SOrry for the uber long-ness! XD; Got carried away ^^;)
No, no, I don't mind uber-longness! Thank you for the information, I really appreciate it. Anything that helps to dispel my confusion and get me more up-to-speed with what's going on is welcome. Especially because I'm confused or have forgotten so many things . . .
Yura's purpose in recreating the tragedy I wasn't exactly clear on, since Yura said a bunch of stuff and changed the story a few times . . . is it that history and the memories that people want?
::nods:: The bit about composing Lacie and the connection with Humpty Dumpty seem to be the big arguments for Reo being Glen. Of course it's possible that he might have just heard the tune somewhere, but I guess we won't really know until the manga-ka shows us definitively where Glen's soul is.
::sniffle:: Don't die, Break! Even if you can't fight, you're still useful in many other ways! It was so traumatic to me when I thought Break was going to die, I can't tell you how relieved I was when Gil charged in and saved the day. Best. Gil. Flying kick. EVAR.
I never thought of Jack hurting Gil... Oooo that ties in with the idea that he may have killed Alice! @-@ Jacky boy, what could you be up to?
I also sort of wonder if Glen was one of the followers of 'Yura's religion, and that the Tragedy was a way for him to see Lacie again, since Jack mentioned that Glen thought Abyss was a place of bright lights. It seems to be, too, because that's where the Baskervilles got their immortality, from those bright lights. But then was the Abyss Oz visited really a false Abyss? And what role does 'Will of Abyss play in all of it?
I digress!
I personally think Oz's sin has something to do with what's happening to him now (mooore theories XD;), and that maybe Reo is either Glen reborn or his next vessel? When the HeadHunter events started I pretty much started thinking that Eliot's nightmares were connected to those rather than the Tragedy, and I still think that, but maybe being connected to Humpty Dumpty let's him see some of Glen's memories? Oz has seen some of Alice's, after all (OR HAS HE? *THEORIES*)
As for Chains breaking contracts, if Gil or Zai's Blood Seal Mirror's were broken, then their contracts with Raven and Gryphon would be gone, which I assume will happen (which sucks; Gil, use Raven more before he get's taken! ... Unless you're still Glen's vessel somehow?)
SO MANY QUESTIONS!
I should stay up and rant, but I have work in 4 hours XDD CURSE YOU PANDY HEARTS! ilu
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I . . . don't really think that Jack killed Alice; I think that Vincent is a much more likely suspect, given that he hated Alice and is always playing with scissors (the apparent murder weapon). But then, gods know this series has managed to surprise me before.
::interested:: I don't recall much about the "bright lights," beyond Jack saying that of the Abyss. Where does it mention that the Baskervilles thus got their immortality? For some reason I thought it might be associated with their chains, or with Glen (who doesn't seem to play by quite the same rules as everyone else). Presumably Glen has at least been somewhat into the Abyss; the man had five chains, after all, and as I recall when Gil got Raven there was nary a bright light to be seen, and a whole lot of dark.
It remains to be seen if Reo has more to do with what's going on beyond his association with Elliot and the orphanage (although all this is linked in with the present storyline it otherwise doesn't seem linked directly to the business with Glen). Although I admit that possibility has occurred to me before, and remains in the back of my thoughts somewhere. But I don't think Humpty Dumpty has any particular association with Glen, so I don't think it would have any connection to Glen's memories, unless mere traffic with the creatures of the Abyss can give access to those.
::mutter:: Somebody's gonna have to break Break's Seal Mirror before the man dies. I mean, Break not having his huge Awesome Power would suck, but not having Break would suck more.
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Vincent is a big maybe on that one; it wouldn't surprise me XDD But that assumption was more based on the way Jack acts around Alice and with the most recent developments with Alice and her 'pointless' comments. Still, it's one of the iffy ones, more that it popped to mind and stuck XDD
The bright lights thing was mentioned in Chapter 51 :3 Lily said she saw a golden light while wandering through the woods, and went on to explain that members of the Baskerville house are people who have accepted the particles of light and become 'Messengers Chosen by Abyss'. Lotti said 'Those who are chosen by the light are said to have an acceptional affinity with the Abyss' and are drawn to Glen/made loyal to Glen. I would imagine it was those lights that made them immortal, as it was obviously something from Abyss that made them that way since Mad Hatter is the only one that can destroy them.
Well if Humpty Dumpty are past Glen vessels then there is always the possibility they could be connected to his memories; we know they're all connected to each other in some way, or all contractors wouldn't feel it's power in use no matter which contractor was using it at the time (i.e. Phillipe was in pain when other Children were using Humpty Dumpty).
But we haven't been told exactly how memories work in the PH world... We DO know that, apparently, everything that has ever happened in history has been written into Abyss, which was why Yura wanted to recreate the Tragedy to force Abyss to open, but that's not to say that those memories can be picked up by just anyone... God! So confusing! XDD
I think the fact Reo wrote 'Lacie' is was clenched it for me, to be honest XDD Though like someone else said, he could always be connected to Lacie herself (who invented the song first), but since we don't know much about her other than the fact she was sacrificed to Abyss and was important to Glen, I sort of avoid her; too easy to make up stuff for her when she's pretty much a blank canvas XDD
Ahhh, but that would be far too smart! XDD Though I suppose Break would never let them do that... He wanted a reason to live and his reason became fulfilling WoA's wish, and Mad Hatter is probably a means to that end. Then again, he really didn't care about WoA when he thought he was gonna die...
Smash it Break! The series needs you! D8
(SOrry for the uber long-ness! XD; Got carried away ^^;)
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Yura's purpose in recreating the tragedy I wasn't exactly clear on, since Yura said a bunch of stuff and changed the story a few times . . . is it that history and the memories that people want?
::nods:: The bit about composing Lacie and the connection with Humpty Dumpty seem to be the big arguments for Reo being Glen. Of course it's possible that he might have just heard the tune somewhere, but I guess we won't really know until the manga-ka shows us definitively where Glen's soul is.
::sniffle:: Don't die, Break! Even if you can't fight, you're still useful in many other ways! It was so traumatic to me when I thought Break was going to die, I can't tell you how relieved I was when Gil charged in and saved the day. Best. Gil. Flying kick. EVAR.
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