Liveblogging the Veeps pt 3
Palin - Obama voted against supporting the troops and funding the troops. (Biden does weird head spin). I agreed with you Biden, when you called Obama out on this.
No early withdrawal, need more troops in Afghanistan, we can't quit now in Iraq.
Biden - That's not a plan. Obama proposed a plan for draw down on troop levels that Iraqi PM agrees with. And McCain voted the same way as Obama. McCain has no end in sight.
Palin - You just want us to lose. We aren't ready. But we are close to victory. You agreed with McCain until you became the VP pick here. Oh Snap.
Biden - McCain was wrong about everything going into the war. Dead wrong on fundamental issues related to the war.
Nuclear Iran vs unstable Pakistan:
Biden - I have been focusing on Pakistan since they already have nukes that can hit Israel and the Mediterranean. Both are dangerous. McCain feels the center front on the war on terrorism is Iraq. Terrorists come from the hills of Afghanistan and Pakistan. And that's where Bin Laden is.
Palin - Both are dangerous. General Patreus and Al Qaeda said Iraq was capital. Now she is listening to Al Qaeda? And when did they come out and say Iraq was home base?
I met Kissinger! We had a chat.
Biden sighs loudly.
Biden is kicking ass on the foreign policy discussion. But I have to say, I thought Rachel Maddow was insane when she wondered if Palin was being low-balled expectation wise so as to seem like any appearance would be a success, but Palin is really holding her own. She's parroting McCain talking points, and not adding much originality to the discussion, but she is doing a hell of a lot better than she did with Couric.
Now Biden is targeting the current administration. I think he should have started this a lot sooner.
Palin: No the current administration hasn't been a foreign policy failure, but I am excited that we [Biden & Palin] both really like Israel. Positive change is coming, govt back on the side of the people, partisanship, blah blah, she isn't talking about foreign policy anymore.
Biden: McCain's policies are the same as George Bush's.
Now Gwen asks Palin about nuclear weapons. I think mostly to make Palin say "nukular" as much as possible. Oh Wait! I remembered a talking point on Afghanistan! The surge that happened in Iraq needs to happen in Afghanistan. Then she dribbles off into nonsense.
Biden: Facts Matter. Our commanding general says the surge principles in Iraq will not work in Afghanistan. Then he says it 3 more times to be a dick.
Biden can pronounce nuclear. <3.
Palin: nu-uh. McClellan didn't say it would't work in Afghanistan. Biden does another drama sigh.
Biden backs off the general's comments. 1 Point to Palin. Don't back down, Joe. Go for the jugular.
Now they are talking about Bosnia. Good luck responding to that girlfriend. Let's see if the handlers prepped her on THAT.
Palin: "Aw Man, its totally obvious I'm a Washington outsider." You were for it before you were against it. Americans are thirsting for some straight talk. Yeah. I am thirsty. Care to get me a can of Bridge to Nowhere?
No early withdrawal, need more troops in Afghanistan, we can't quit now in Iraq.
Biden - That's not a plan. Obama proposed a plan for draw down on troop levels that Iraqi PM agrees with. And McCain voted the same way as Obama. McCain has no end in sight.
Palin - You just want us to lose. We aren't ready. But we are close to victory. You agreed with McCain until you became the VP pick here. Oh Snap.
Biden - McCain was wrong about everything going into the war. Dead wrong on fundamental issues related to the war.
Nuclear Iran vs unstable Pakistan:
Biden - I have been focusing on Pakistan since they already have nukes that can hit Israel and the Mediterranean. Both are dangerous. McCain feels the center front on the war on terrorism is Iraq. Terrorists come from the hills of Afghanistan and Pakistan. And that's where Bin Laden is.
Palin - Both are dangerous. General Patreus and Al Qaeda said Iraq was capital. Now she is listening to Al Qaeda? And when did they come out and say Iraq was home base?
I met Kissinger! We had a chat.
Biden sighs loudly.
Biden is kicking ass on the foreign policy discussion. But I have to say, I thought Rachel Maddow was insane when she wondered if Palin was being low-balled expectation wise so as to seem like any appearance would be a success, but Palin is really holding her own. She's parroting McCain talking points, and not adding much originality to the discussion, but she is doing a hell of a lot better than she did with Couric.
Now Biden is targeting the current administration. I think he should have started this a lot sooner.
Palin: No the current administration hasn't been a foreign policy failure, but I am excited that we [Biden & Palin] both really like Israel. Positive change is coming, govt back on the side of the people, partisanship, blah blah, she isn't talking about foreign policy anymore.
Biden: McCain's policies are the same as George Bush's.
Now Gwen asks Palin about nuclear weapons. I think mostly to make Palin say "nukular" as much as possible. Oh Wait! I remembered a talking point on Afghanistan! The surge that happened in Iraq needs to happen in Afghanistan. Then she dribbles off into nonsense.
Biden: Facts Matter. Our commanding general says the surge principles in Iraq will not work in Afghanistan. Then he says it 3 more times to be a dick.
Biden can pronounce nuclear. <3.
Palin: nu-uh. McClellan didn't say it would't work in Afghanistan. Biden does another drama sigh.
Biden backs off the general's comments. 1 Point to Palin. Don't back down, Joe. Go for the jugular.
Now they are talking about Bosnia. Good luck responding to that girlfriend. Let's see if the handlers prepped her on THAT.
Palin: "Aw Man, its totally obvious I'm a Washington outsider." You were for it before you were against it. Americans are thirsting for some straight talk. Yeah. I am thirsty. Care to get me a can of Bridge to Nowhere?