Mac Mail Clients, again
So. I am still looking - desperately looking - for a working e-mail client for my Mac.
And it's no use recommending that I use Apple's Mail. My experience with it goes back a number of years, but at the time, it fucked up to a degree that is beyond fucked up - I told it to download mail locally through POP, it said it was doing that, and when I started deleting the extra mails I did not need to see, it wiped them from the server via IMAP.
I still have local copies - these were very important and emotionally charged emails - but it was a very traumatic experience, and I am having a panic attack at the mere thought of using Mail again. Ever.
Eudora OSE has been a missing stair on my Mac for some time - I worked around it, but it really was a piece of shyte, and the way in which Mavericks has broken it is just the last straw, and I need to tackle this.
Eudora OSE is based on the Thunderbird engine, and I'm getting reports from other people that Thunderbird is not working too well and breaking with OS updates, so that does not sound like the best step forward overall, but I shall evaluate it.
Over the last couple of days I tried out a piece of software called 'Airmail' which I liked quite well, apart from two things. One was the red flag of if you display emails as conversations (not a bad thing) and delete one of them, it would delete all emails in that conversation. Which... what the fuck. That's bad interface design; that's _highly unsafe_ design, and it made me worry about the competence of the designers.
And then, this morning, out of nowhere, my emails in one mailbox arrived with the correct time, no sender, subject line, or content. At which Airmail decided that they weren't real emails and swallowed them whole.
Now, it can happen that a download is incomplete - but I would much rather have a list of 'this email has been insufficiently downloaded (which means I can go back to the server and read it and ideally the software would try to download it again next time it connects). The real problem here is that the software fails badly, and fails in a manner that is unsafe and that will lead to data loss. (If I didn't leave my mail on the server, who knows what would have happened?)
Right now, I'm in the grip of a deadline, so I don't have time to research email clients. I am balking a lot at paying $$$ for something that will turn out to have major flaws, although right now I would be happy to pay money for something that works.
Right now, this is a tremendous source of stress for me. I need a working e-mail client, as all of my work is found and/or conducted through e-mail. And it's not as if this were rocket science - a working POP client is a problem that has been solved. Five years ago I did not have this problem: what the hell is happening in computing such a basic service is no longer readily available?
Also posted at http://green-knight.dreamwidth.org/1019483.html where it has gathered
comments. If you're reading at both sites, I'd prefer comments at DW.
And it's no use recommending that I use Apple's Mail. My experience with it goes back a number of years, but at the time, it fucked up to a degree that is beyond fucked up - I told it to download mail locally through POP, it said it was doing that, and when I started deleting the extra mails I did not need to see, it wiped them from the server via IMAP.
I still have local copies - these were very important and emotionally charged emails - but it was a very traumatic experience, and I am having a panic attack at the mere thought of using Mail again. Ever.
Eudora OSE has been a missing stair on my Mac for some time - I worked around it, but it really was a piece of shyte, and the way in which Mavericks has broken it is just the last straw, and I need to tackle this.
Eudora OSE is based on the Thunderbird engine, and I'm getting reports from other people that Thunderbird is not working too well and breaking with OS updates, so that does not sound like the best step forward overall, but I shall evaluate it.
Over the last couple of days I tried out a piece of software called 'Airmail' which I liked quite well, apart from two things. One was the red flag of if you display emails as conversations (not a bad thing) and delete one of them, it would delete all emails in that conversation. Which... what the fuck. That's bad interface design; that's _highly unsafe_ design, and it made me worry about the competence of the designers.
And then, this morning, out of nowhere, my emails in one mailbox arrived with the correct time, no sender, subject line, or content. At which Airmail decided that they weren't real emails and swallowed them whole.
Now, it can happen that a download is incomplete - but I would much rather have a list of 'this email has been insufficiently downloaded (which means I can go back to the server and read it and ideally the software would try to download it again next time it connects). The real problem here is that the software fails badly, and fails in a manner that is unsafe and that will lead to data loss. (If I didn't leave my mail on the server, who knows what would have happened?)
Right now, I'm in the grip of a deadline, so I don't have time to research email clients. I am balking a lot at paying $$$ for something that will turn out to have major flaws, although right now I would be happy to pay money for something that works.
Right now, this is a tremendous source of stress for me. I need a working e-mail client, as all of my work is found and/or conducted through e-mail. And it's not as if this were rocket science - a working POP client is a problem that has been solved. Five years ago I did not have this problem: what the hell is happening in computing such a basic service is no longer readily available?
Also posted at http://green-knight.dreamwidth.org/1019483.html where it has gathered
comments. If you're reading at both sites, I'd prefer comments at DW.