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green_jenni

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Feb 06, 2007 20:50

I just found out today that 66% of abortions are sought by women that are already mothers. This is a strong indication to me that many of the women are making the best choices they can for the children they already have ( Read more... )

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I'm trying to be sympathetic, but... anonymous February 7 2007, 18:59:18 UTC

I still can't agree with abortion. It's sad that the 9th kid had a rough life because his mom went nuts, but do you honestly believe that the solution or better path to have taken was to abort that child out of existence??

Aren't there other more humane solutions, like adoption for example? Maybe it's cause I got a fighting spirit but I'd rather be given a crappy chance in a crappy adoption home than be aborted and given NO chance at all.

I don't necessarily think that this bill is the way to go right now, but it hurts me to think of how we have rationalized abortion as being a humane way to end human suffering. It sickly reminds me a bit of the Nazi's rationalization of their eugenics program.

Anyway, I've probably said enough.

Re: I'm trying to be sympathetic, but... green_jenni February 7 2007, 20:39:38 UTC

It's not a eugenics discussion -- but it is illustrative of a point -- not all women who seek abortions are the right-wing stereotype of a cavalier, sexually promiscuous woman that doesn't bother to take birth control and uses abortions as such.

Making a choice is a lot more nuanced than pro-lifers give credit for. There are so many variables, so many different reasons that someone must have an abortion.

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Re: I'm trying to be sympathetic, but... green_jenni February 7 2007, 20:41:07 UTC

For those pro-lifers who are moms, I'd be curious as to how much was too much for you to make a decision other than raising a child. Just as an exercise -- this is something I've done myself ( ... )

Re: I'm trying to be sympathetic, but... green_jenni February 7 2007, 20:42:17 UTC

If you can happily raise as many children as you are comfortable bearing, you are a rare woman. Many of us are not child-oriented, and some of us who may be fond of children still may have limits far, far below that. So are we to join nuneries, get major surgery or should we be punished for having sex by being forced to raise children against our will for most of our lives ( ... )

Re: I'm trying to be sympathetic, but... green_jenni February 7 2007, 20:43:57 UTC

Is it because if an egg is fertilized that means God has meant for you to have more children? Beside being unprovable by doctrine it sets a weird precedent -- do you get you tumor removed if you get cancer and try to live, or is it God's will that you should have cancer and it's your time to go. Do you get treatment for diabetes, or do you accept God's will and hope for the best? Maybe it's your fault that you got cancer eating a meat-heavy diet and spraying your house with pesticides. Maybe it's your fault that you got diabetes by drink soda and eating candy, but most people would say their lives are more important and will do what they can to fix their lives rather than take the natural punishment of their actions with good grace ( ... )

Re: I'm trying to be sympathetic, but... anonymous February 7 2007, 21:43:14 UTC

A Slippery-Slope argument: could surgery on your reproductive system eventually be considered a form of abortion? Maybe that's a bit radical, but you never know.

My thoughts are that I would never get an abortion myself, but I will never tell another woman what choice she should make...that's between her and her conscience and no one else...particularly not the Utah legislature.

Re: I'm trying to be sympathetic, but... green_jenni February 8 2007, 19:27:03 UTC

"My thoughts are that I would never get an abortion myself, but I will never tell another woman what choice she should make...that's between her and her conscience and no one else...particularly not the Utah legislature."

Thank you -- this is what pro-choice means. The choice can be to raise a child -- it's one of the 3.

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