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Sep 28, 2011 12:54

WOW WE SURE HAVE HAD A LOT OF NOT!MEMES LATELY

and it's my turn! Specifically, what does your character find attractive in others? it could be physical traits, personality traits, hobbies, that Sims-esque heart-shaped hot tub full of somebody else's blood in their back room, anything - what do they look for in a prospective partner? do they admit ( Read more... )

this is not a meme, questions of a deep & meaningful nature, baby don't hurt me, kirsten loves everyone, what is love, welcome to die

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he_is_wild September 28 2011, 18:19:35 UTC
I play the Joker.

That...should be my entire response to this.

...But I think I have a more in depth answer.

The clown is an equal-opportunity flirt and will shmooze all over just about anyone regardless of gender. His sexual orientation is whatever makes you uncomfortable.

At his core, though, he does have desires that are entirely his own and he seems to prefer the company of women who can embrace him for who, and what, he is. He likes having someone he can talk to and rattle off ideas to without fear of being judged. That's why, despite seemingly having quite a few flings over the years (some even sexual), he's been in VERY few actual relationships. Harley is the only person to know him as the Joker and love him completely. To the point of obsession, really. And....this is controversial, I know... but I think he loves her back. He cannot properly process or express "love" and he cannot love selflessly, but he does love her. If he didn't, she'd be dead. He abuses her because he doesn't know what to make of his own feelings (please note I'm not saying this makes it okay, it's just WHY he does it). In Secrets (which may or may not be canon depending on who you ask) he confides in Batman, saying that he knows he has to destroy a person when he realizes he might have feelings for them. And he knows this when he weeps real tears around them. In the main continuity Harley is the only person to have seen Joker cry. (All of this said, Joker did create Harley Quinn and he sees some of himself within her so there is an autosexual aspect to this messed up romance. Joker is, after all, his own favorite person.)

Consciously, he doesn't realize he's even looking for a partner. He likes to think of himself as forever alone in the spotlight and anyone who seeks to join him there is padding their role; but he IS a social creature at heart and it will always take at least two people to get a joke.

Oh...he also enjoys people who share his unusual tastes in bedroom antics but the less said about that the better.


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girlyboywonder September 28 2011, 19:05:25 UTC
that is so delightfully horrible

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he_is_wild September 28 2011, 19:30:31 UTC
The Joker's sex life is something canon has covered in detail, more than once. THANKS, DC!

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Batman he_is_wild September 28 2011, 19:13:41 UTC
I guess I should go into my thoughts on the Batman here, even though I'm not sure it's directly related to the question.

EVERYONE knows Joker is...very fond of his Batty. I don't think that one is physical attraction, though. SO. Allow me to bore the tears out of you with my explanation of that particular relationship:

The short explanation is that Joker's relationship to the Bat is imprinting. But this, of course, raises more questions. How did it happen and why?

The Joker has no memory of his own life prior to the accident at ACE. This means his first memory of conscious existence is one of incredible pain and suffering: liquid fire burning through his skin and eyes and into his lungs. All he really knows is that he was wearing the Hood at the time and that Batman was there. Batman, therefore, is tied in closely to the Joker's very first memory and that memory is a painful and traumatic one. He was there on the day of the Joker's birth and may have even been responsible for it. Thoughts of the Bat raise memories, perhaps subconsciously, of horrible agony and panic. That is why Batman is larger than life to the Joker.

When Batman stopped him from poisoning the reservoir and getting revenge against the heads of ACE, he secured himself as the Joker's nemesis, always there to prevent him from carrying out his plans. Always the reason for his pain. Since Joker doesn't remember his past, there is nothing that emotionally ties him to humanity. Batman quickly became his most important relation. Over time Joker has dubbed himself the tragic protagonist of his own dramatic life, Batman is his unwilling comedic double but also his villain. There would be no drama and no conflict without him.

Batman-the face of the Joker's pain and the cause of his creation. The hated adversary and beloved co-star. The primal enemy. He hates Batman but thrives on that hatred. It's what spurs him and what gets him up in the morning. He would be lost without it.

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enigmaestro September 28 2011, 19:17:33 UTC
I do love his woven narrative with Batman's. It's such a poetic saga.

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he_is_wild September 28 2011, 19:29:15 UTC
It really is.

Joker totally embraces himself as being evil but I think he legitimately believes there is a place for him in the history of the human race. Some day, he thinks, people will look back on his life and see him as an artistic genius and remember Batman as the asshole.

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