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journeytoernie January 23 2009, 21:22:26 UTC
HA! i hear ya.

are they all "bedroom" communities? where people are like "oh, i have 3 delinquints because i'm never home bc i'm working like a dog to afford my over priced house BUT I'VE GOT A BIG HOUSE AND YOU DONT! NYAH NYAH!" that knod of thing?

yeah you can have all the stuff (to look at me, i drive a big ol' minivan...) but if your "soul" isn't the stereotype it's going to show.

i live in cumberland. we used to go to the most expensive preschool in the area. unknowingly...it just happened that way. it's still a lot cheaper then downstate so we didnt know better....

and let me tell you! those people were SNOBBY! i'm like "look...my hubby probably makes more then you do...enough with the holier then thou shit. ok? moving on." they'd be like "oh. that's your car?" when i had my OLD minivan. they'd be in their big fat suv's that probably cost more then my house ;)

i dont understand people. i like stuff. i am the first to admit stuff is cool. i'm all about working and buying things you can afford. and i would just about sell my soul right now to move to a bigger house (i have 1 bathroom. and i'm potty training. life is not fun right now). but it's not in the cards right now and i'm not willing to stretch like that.

i dont understand people who are proud of their debt like it defines who they are.

i hope that made sense

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gonzy317 January 23 2009, 21:57:50 UTC
That's it EXACTLY!!! We plan on a smaller house next time - (ours is currently a 5 bedroom 3.5 bath monster) we have 3 kids so we have to have some space, but not this much space.

My husband makes a buttload of money (likely more than my neighbors) and I don't make a slouchy salary, and as of March we will have no debt other than the house. My neighbors behind me have in the last year bought:

a pool
2 new cars
finished their basement
had their house professionally decorated
enrolled their kid in a private school
a bunch of other unnecessary shit

And when they answered their door at halloween and a couple older kids told them their parents said to come to our neighborhood cause we're all "rich" she laughed and told them no, they were just in debt up to their asses.

Wow.

I love stuff too, but not to the detriment of my family. I just don't get my neighbors AT ALL. I desperately miss our old neighborhood in calvert county. while we all had nice houses, etc. we weren't all snobs. :)

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journeytoernie January 24 2009, 07:39:40 UTC
PROFESSIONALLY REDECORATED? ok, maybe i'm a born hick but what on earth for!? with a kid?

do most of them only have one kid too? like one kid and 10 bedrooms??

we have 2 little boys (under 5) and one on the way (i'm still in the closet about it, but you dont know anyone on my fl but lele and she is in the know) and our house is like a walk in closet. i have dirty dreams of a house like yours until i wake up and think "um. no. maybe compromise...."

i'd like a house younger then me... for once.

that is awful about the halloween thing. i used to go to the "rich" neighborhoods as a kid. there was one area that was just built and the people who lived there were "fresh debt" so they bought like 3 packs of real candy bars. and no one came. so my friend and i came around 9:30 and got the whole thing :D

calvert county! wow! talk about moving out!

and i agree about the stuff thing. i hate people who are all like "oh but i'm not materialistic" (i just finished a class with a woman who was all "unmaterialistic" and she made me want to drink)

let's be real, in this day and age, the only way you're not materialistic is if you're in a mental institute. it's just a matter of letting material things take over the important things. LIKE A DAMN PROFESSIONAL REDECORATOR! what the hell! I'm sure you're like *headwallheadwall* daily ;)

my hubby still works in baltimore and we live out here. so we easily make more then all our neighbors combined (cumberland = no jobs)

what do you and the hubby do?

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gonzy317 January 25 2009, 18:23:53 UTC
yup. 2 tops. There are a couple families with more than 2 kids, but they're rare. They all thought we were crazy when I got pregnant last year with my third (well, so did we, but for other reasons!! hehehe)

I just hate it here and can't wait to move. I keep looking at real estate sites in colorado and picking out my cozy little cabin. hehehe

We're both in the computer field - hubby does enterprise management stuff (he's an executive director at at&t gov't solutions in columbia) and I do computer fixey stuff and work for Marriott Headquarters supporting the law, communications, gov't affairs (lobbyists), and executive offices. I get paid lots of money to change toner at the moment. LOL!! I am looking for a new job - I used to be the help desk manager at a law firm in DC.

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journeytoernie January 25 2009, 18:38:03 UTC
HA! i'm sure you KNEW you were crazy to begin with ;)

why colorado? it's COLD there!

oh yay! my hubby is computer geeky too! not that you're a geek, i dont even know you ;) but he works in jessup, 2.5 hours away from home. it's cute. not.

hey there is nothing wrong to be highly paid and do nothing! sign me up!

i just got my degree, but i cant really think of anythign i want to do with it

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gonzy317 January 25 2009, 18:45:29 UTC
hehehe. Yeah, we were crazy!! :)

Yikes, 2.5 hours away - that's quite a hike!!

I'm a geek, it's totaly ok. I'm working on a degree, but I intend to switch fields drastically and teach history to high schoolers (cause apparently whiney executive types aren't bad enough). But it'll be quite a few years until I get my degree yet, who knows what will happen.

Colorado is close to home and hubby can stay with his company if we move there. So, its just an option. we just know we aren't going to stay in MD forever. Especially not in carroll county!

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journeytoernie January 25 2009, 18:47:41 UTC
yeah but whiney executives have no excuse. teens do. if i was a teen again i'd be whiney as hell. i dont ever want to go through that think you! :)

he does 4 tens, so he stays overnight 2 nights a week and has off one day a week. so it's not SOOOO bad....if you spread it all out, 5 hours for 2 work days, so it's REALLY only about an hour and 15 min there and back if you think about it creatively....

you're from colorado? what on earth brought you here!?

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gonzy317 January 25 2009, 21:19:42 UTC
from Utah but essentially I was dating a guy in St. Louis that I met online. My grandfather died (I was helping to care for him) and I had nothing left to keep me there, so I packed a suitcase and drove off into the sunrise.

When I got to St. Louis my guy informed me that I couldn't stay there and handed me $150 (he apparently was dating someone else - that would have been good to know before I'd started out!!) I'd gotten a job there, but when I reported for work the next day they told me they couldn't get a hold of me but that they decided not to create the position.

So I kept driving and here I am.

I think I stayed in the DC area because my grandparents had met here (they were both Navy - granddad was here being restationed and grandmom worked in the pentagon). With him having just passed away it felt right. I've been here ever since. Moved around between MD and VA a few times. On Feb. 17th I will have been living here for 12 years.

Crazy huh?

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journeytoernie January 25 2009, 21:26:23 UTC
the boyfriend handed you cash, pat you on the back, and sent you on your way? wow. he wins the asshole award...

you're so brave! i dont know if i could have just up and left! i dont know if i could have afforded it!

we live in maryland just because we live in maryland. if you know what i mean.

sometimes i wish we could go out and find a fantastic place to live that is perfect. but we dont want to move too far from his parents or his job.

i think 2.5 hours is plenty far enough ;)

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gonzy317 January 26 2009, 16:40:33 UTC
I lived on credit cards for about 4 months. There's more to the story - I first rented a room from a woman who took what I was paying in rent but never paid the overall rent and got us evicted. She also stole my credit cards. then I rented a room from a guy who 2 weeks after I moved in there was a drug raid on the house. after that I rented a room from a psychology professor from George Mason (my boss knew him and recommended it), and then I caught him going through my underwear one day!

It was nuts.

I want to move back closer to family - I feel like I'm missing out on that part of my life. I don't mind maryland I guess - and I definitely prefer the east coast, but who knows where we'll end up! :)

Alright, now that you know my sordid past, I'm adding you to my FL. feel free to add back. ;)

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journeytoernie January 26 2009, 16:43:37 UTC
wow! you certainly are an adventurer! if you had to go back and do it again, would you have? i mean in hindsight it sounds so exotic and fun!

sounds good. i'll add you away. obviously if leigh anne likes you, you cant be too bad.

look at me! you're the second person i've added in a week! if i dont watch it, people are going to think i'm friendly ;)

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gonzy317 January 26 2009, 17:03:15 UTC
hehehehe!! I think I would have done it again. It was stressful and crazy for a few months and I was TOTALLY on my own and by myself, but it was also fun and exciting.

I adore change and start to feel really bogged down if I can't switch things up every now and again. A few years ago I took 3 kids on a cross-country drive by myself. Now THAT was an adventure!!

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journeytoernie January 26 2009, 17:50:50 UTC
i am always jealous of people who just dive into the unknown totally alone and dependent on no one. i wish i could have done that just once.

although, i LOVE being dependent ;)

i like change too! we've lived in 4 different houses in the 6 years we've been married.

moving here was the biggest change though!

i would NEVER have the guts to do cross country with 3 kids. i'd make the hubby come! (i'd also miss him like crazy)

how old are your kids?

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gonzy317 January 26 2009, 18:01:03 UTC
kids are 8 months, 4 years and 9 years - all boys.

at the time I did that hubby had to go to europe for work for two weeks and we were trying to sell our house. So, I fig. it would be best to just clean the house and leave. I had my niece living with us - so she was 14, then a 6 year old and a 2 year old. We had a blast! I made the older two keep a journal. My 6 year old wrote about 10 pages of "I see corn." over and over again. LOL!

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journeytoernie January 26 2009, 18:11:05 UTC
dont tell me all boys. if this one isn't a girl, i'm going to need therapy again! i'm tired of boys!

WOAH....i would NOT have let the hubby go to europe without me!

dan had to go to france for a geekery thing and i wouldn't let him go w/o me. and it's a good thing too bc that's where my littlest boy was conceived ;)

i LOVE that journal! "i see corn!" how creative is that!?

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gonzy317 January 26 2009, 18:22:47 UTC
I said that same thing.... but still a boy. :( And hubby says NO NO NO to anymore, so I'll just pray for lots of granddaughters.

I told him he had 5 years from that point to get me there or I was filing for divorce. :) It was a USAF reserves thing, though.

he is likely going to Germany this october and we're thinking of going along with. The only problem is that I'd have to fly with the 3 kids by myself cause he'd be going with the military. Haven't figured that out yet. :/

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