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goldvermilion87

The Losing Side (Who is the winner in A Scandal in Belgravia?)

Jan 08, 2012 00:05

( New topic, but as I continue to wildly spoil A Scandal in Belgravia, don't read this post unless you've seen the episode. )

ramblings, sherlock (bbc)

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capt_facepalm January 8 2012, 13:15:03 UTC

This is a very thoughtful interpretation. It well explains the BBC universe and fits original canon too.

(I am discourteous to my verbs this early in the morning)

goldvermilion87 January 29 2012, 18:09:02 UTC

Thank you. :=)

garonne January 29 2012, 10:34:31 UTC

Eanor recommended this post to me, because I was complaining that what I disliked most about A Scandal in Belgravia was the fact that Irene Adler lost, or so it seemed to me, and (coming at the episode as someone who's first and foremost a fan of the original stories) I would have preferred they give the character a different name, if they were going to remove her defining characteristic as 'the woman who beat Sherlock Holmes'.

Well, after reading your post I feel rather differently! I really like the points you make here. In fact, I wonder if that time Sherlock is begging for Irene's phone is the only time we hear him say 'please' in the entire series? Anyway, thanks for this interpretation! Maybe I should watch the episode again in a new light :)

goldvermilion87 January 29 2012, 18:08:26 UTC

Thanks for commenting. I'm glad you found this persuasive ( ... )

garonne February 2 2012, 22:25:36 UTC

:D No no, I don't think it's possible to think about this too much! Otherwise I certainly have too ;)

Must look out for the 'please' thing next time I watch. It's an interesting point you make about the three different ways/reasons he says please...

thetealogic February 20 2012, 15:45:07 UTC

I'm a sucker for essays and I thoroughly enjoyed yours. Your point about Sherlock begging for Irene's phone is a prominent one and it never occurred to me before.
On reflection, Irene certainly has won. Which in turn becomes more brilliant because I believe only the audience is truly aware of it. Irene will never know that Sherlock has kept her phone(though she may indeed guess)

:) Good work!

goldvermilion87 February 20 2012, 17:12:56 UTC

Thanks!

I like the idea that only the audience knows that Irene won -- I think that fits into the ambiguity of the relationship overall. :-)

impulsereader December 4 2012, 04:17:44 UTC

Very interesting - definitely. Very good points. The fact that Irene was working for Moriarty was one that I had really only acknowledged during the opening scenes. This wasn't something I had really carried through the episode in any sort of analytical bent and your pointing it out is extremely valuable. This is definitely a factor which needs to be taken into account ( ... )

goldvermilion87 December 4 2012, 04:36:37 UTC

See, I'd say BBC Sherlock, if he doesn't give in to sentiment more than ACD Holmes, does so more significantly ( ... )

impulsereader December 4 2012, 04:44:59 UTC

Hm. Something to think on. You're absolutely right that Sherlock has evolved at this point. I haven't read the article yet, so I'm still working on all this. :-)

I WOULD - I TOTALLY WOULD IF IT WEREN'T FOR WORK IN THE MORNING.

I love that you're not afraid of capslock. Sometimes you really need capslock.

Oh. Hey. It's not as late as I thought. I'm totally starting it up - it's not as if I don't know how it ends...

goldvermilion87 December 4 2012, 04:50:41 UTC

I have decided to go to bed now and then watch it tomorrow.

(If I don't end up staying up half the night reading the next Percy Jackson book...)

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