I think I'm invested in SPN because I kinda don't want to be between fandoms. But it's losing me. . . It happened towards the end of last season, when I was bored, it was pretty much cemented with killing off Andy and Ash, and it hasn't been good enough to recover fully from that this season. I'm still up for squeeing at the squeeful things, but I'm getting sick of same-old, same-old. ESPECIALLY the misogyny.
That line . . . my reaction was interesting. Because I think that this is just the sort of thing Dean would say, and I still like him. He's exactly the sort of person that would be all, "I mean gay-stupid, not gay-gay," when questioned (which for the record I think is utterly dumb, but . . . that's him). So, I wasn't any more disillusioned with Dean than I already have been. However, I totally agree that the show didn't counter it, question it, etc. Which I think it should have. So rather than making me like Dean less (because I didn't find it out of character), I liked the show less. It didn't stop me from from
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I'm the same as you; they started losing me late last season. But I don't WANT the honeymoon to be over.
Ha, I saw your review, and hee! Until I saw yourlibrarian's post, pretty much everyone I'd seen had gotten a kick out of it, and I was like, "*crickets* Is it just me?"
But yes, I can completely see him saying, in all earnestness, "It's not offensive! I don't mean gay-gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that."
Which... that reminds me, when I was thinking about this earlier, I was thinking the phrase "gay as in lame, as opposed to gay as in gay." And then I was like, wait, is the word lame offensive? Is it able-body-centric? I really don't know!
Speaking of Andy. (WHICH THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF, IMO. Let's speak of Andy!) Skuf has a discussion about his mindtricks. I can't remember if I've heard you talk about that before. What do you think
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yeah, i think that 'lame' is pretty offensive thing to say, too. when someone first pulled me up on it years ago i was all "WHAT?! you've got to be KIDDING me!" but i really think it applies just as much as 'gay' or 'girl'.
I think it's just a cumulative thing... critical mass, final straw.totally. and i think i didn't make that much of it because i'm deperately trying to fool myself back in love with MY SHOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW. and . . . uh . . . such an attitude doesn't hold up to this kind of criticism
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That line . . . my reaction was interesting. Because I think that this is just the sort of thing Dean would say, and I still like him. He's exactly the sort of person that would be all, "I mean gay-stupid, not gay-gay," when questioned (which for the record I think is utterly dumb, but . . . that's him). So, I wasn't any more disillusioned with Dean than I already have been. However, I totally agree that the show didn't counter it, question it, etc. Which I think it should have. So rather than making me like Dean less (because I didn't find it out of character), I liked the show less. It didn't stop me from from ( ... )
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Ha, I saw your review, and hee! Until I saw yourlibrarian's post, pretty much everyone I'd seen had gotten a kick out of it, and I was like, "*crickets* Is it just me?"
But yes, I can completely see him saying, in all earnestness, "It's not offensive! I don't mean gay-gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that."
Which... that reminds me, when I was thinking about this earlier, I was thinking the phrase "gay as in lame, as opposed to gay as in gay." And then I was like, wait, is the word lame offensive? Is it able-body-centric? I really don't know!
Speaking of Andy. (WHICH THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF, IMO. Let's speak of Andy!) Skuf has a discussion about his mindtricks. I can't remember if I've heard you talk about that before. What do you think ( ... )
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I think it's just a cumulative thing... critical mass, final straw.totally. and i think i didn't make that much of it because i'm deperately trying to fool myself back in love with MY SHOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW. and . . . uh . . . such an attitude doesn't hold up to this kind of criticism ( ... )
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That's the feeling I got. That's what I hope happened, anyway.
He IS, he is 100% pure adorkable.
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Er, by that I didn't mean to imply that they're not both fucked up things to say; quite the contrary.
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