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desertprince04 January 8 2009, 15:27:39 UTC
Don't you think that, by doing what you claim, you're mere stooping down to the level you're claiming to hate?

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gm_kragok January 8 2009, 20:13:09 UTC
The ends more than justify the means. When did I claim to hate using death to accomplish goals?

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desertprince04 January 8 2009, 21:21:25 UTC
I never said that... merely stated that your means aren't better than the ones you seem to want to keep an eye on.

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gm_kragok January 8 2009, 21:58:18 UTC
Sometimes our hand is forced.

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desertprince04 January 8 2009, 22:24:04 UTC
And what makes you think that the hand of those you oppose wasn't forced as well?

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gm_kragok January 8 2009, 22:32:20 UTC
I don't care if they were or not. They want the responsibilities of being a governing body? One of those responsibilities is proving their legitimacy.

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desertprince04 January 8 2009, 22:33:39 UTC
And what would prove it to you, Grandmaster?

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gm_kragok January 8 2009, 22:40:19 UTC
Information is classified for reasons. I understand that.

They want to be accepted as a governmental body? Then they divulge all unrestricted information. Leaders, command structure and hierarchy, organization, along with an official doctrine concerning their methodology and mission goals. Something they can be held to.

If and or when they diverge from that methodology or mission statement, they can then be held accountable. Right now you are relying on the Alliance to police the compound and itself.

I believe the saying goes... "But who shall guard the guardians?"

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desertprince04 January 9 2009, 01:56:42 UTC
And threatening those 'guardians' with death if they do something you don't agree with is the way to go about it? That's rather extreme, hm?

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gm_kragok January 9 2009, 02:03:31 UTC
If it works.

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desertprince04 January 9 2009, 02:27:35 UTC
Still... You're extremism is exactly what you seem to be complaining against.

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[screened to: quatre] [impossible to hack] gm_kragok January 9 2009, 02:33:42 UTC
Actually, I never intended any of it.

You accomplished my goal for me by commenting on this entry when I made the threat.

My hand was never forced, and I knew that few ever listen to reasonable dissent when there's already a... "catastrophe" in the works.

So I forced my own hand... to force yours.

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[screened between Quatre & Kragok, unhackable] desertprince04 January 9 2009, 02:50:30 UTC
I'm not afraid of people knowing who I am and what I do, if it was your intent to flush out those associated with the Alliance. I'm also not afraid of the possibility that my associations put my life in danger. I'm willing to take that risk.

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[screened to: quatre] [impossible to hack] gm_kragok January 9 2009, 06:03:41 UTC
Ah-- you think my threat is valid.

Now, while I'm flattered that someone thinks I am so ruthless, allow me to settle the matter. I care about Rose. She is in the Alliance. For that simple fact, I will not actually kill anyone in that organization. However, I needed to be heard, and no one was listening to reason.

I therefore realized that if no one would listen to reason, they might at least notice seeming psychosis. It was a gambit, sir, a bluff, and it was called. You allowed me to air my true concerns, my true agenda, and then to point it out to someone who, while not perhaps the leader of the Alliance, apparently holds some clout.

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Re: [screened to: quatre] [impossible to hack] desertprince04 January 10 2009, 04:35:50 UTC
I see. I'm not sure just how much 'clout' I hold with the Alliance... but, you are welcome to come and voice your concerns and I will do my best to help them be heard if you wish.

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[screened to: quatre] [impossible to hack] gm_kragok January 10 2009, 07:41:54 UTC
There is Jing as well. Your organization risks stagnation if all you do is talk.

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