The things I answered are what I have in mind, not what I think other people should or ought to :-).
Oh, that's a given - I thought, though, it was interesting to see what you deem most...determining about Obi-Wan, and to see where I would differ. Reminds of those wonderful old TPM days when we used to discuss characterisation on list - remember them? And how differently people would interpret the same (minute) canon.
I didn't ask you Qui because I figured that would be too easy for you :) (per Elayna above) - I'm sure you've thought through Qui time and time again. Let me see....
1) He is at peace with himself. It's the most attractive part of him, I think - he's a reflective but not a conflicted person, for all the disturbance he leaves in his wake.
2) The body is nothing, the spirit is all.
3) There's an element of pure mischief to him, and a true child's love of the wondrous.
[Edited to say:] Eeep eep eeep, I forgot one even more important: he might wait to make a decision, but once he does, it's instant on: he is utterly a man of action, who does what needs to be done. He'll accept the consequences, but they won't deter him. (Bloody hell, I wrote an entire story just about this, and still managed to forget it!)
Yes, I do remember - those were fun times. Really meaty conversation like that is so rare & valuable.
You are right - Qui-Gon would have been very easy for me -- though I would likely have gone & dug for difficult/less obvious things, or so I hope. These that you have here ring very true, especially 1 & 3. 2 I agree with, but with a corollary/side-note/something that while spirit is all, it *encompasses* body, it does not *deny* it -- he's not a manichean :-).
2 I agree with, but with a corollary/side-note/something that while spirit is all, it *encompasses* body, it does not *deny* it -- he's not a manichean :-).
I'm still tossing this one up in my mind, but in the end, I think he would discard his body without a second thought. Though perhaps I'm channelling Yoda more here :) :)
Re Obi-Wan, I think the reason why I don't follow you on your first one: 1. Would actually like a nice, conventional (for certain not-exactly-standard definitions of conventional) and unexciting life. He knows he is not going to get one, even when living out in the middle of nowhere, ass-end of the universe, Tatooine. is that I think he has a streak of the wildly idealistic and romantic hiding in him - which never leads to a nice conventional life :)
Oh, that's a given - I thought, though, it was interesting to see what you deem most...determining about Obi-Wan, and to see where I would differ. Reminds of those wonderful old TPM days when we used to discuss characterisation on list - remember them? And how differently people would interpret the same (minute) canon.
I didn't ask you Qui because I figured that would be too easy for you :) (per Elayna above) - I'm sure you've thought through Qui time and time again. Let me see....
1) He is at peace with himself. It's the most attractive part of him, I think - he's a reflective but not a conflicted person, for all the disturbance he leaves in his wake.
2) The body is nothing, the spirit is all.
3) There's an element of pure mischief to him, and a true child's love of the wondrous.
[Edited to say:] Eeep eep eeep, I forgot one even more important: he might wait to make a decision, but once he does, it's instant on: he is utterly a man of action, who does what needs to be done. He'll accept the consequences, but they won't deter him. (Bloody hell, I wrote an entire story just about this, and still managed to forget it!)
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You are right - Qui-Gon would have been very easy for me -- though I would likely have gone & dug for difficult/less obvious things, or so I hope. These that you have here ring very true, especially 1 & 3. 2 I agree with, but with a corollary/side-note/something that while spirit is all, it *encompasses* body, it does not *deny* it -- he's not a manichean :-).
And oh, 3a/4 -- yesyesyesyes.
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I'm still tossing this one up in my mind, but in the end, I think he would discard his body without a second thought. Though perhaps I'm channelling Yoda more here :) :)
Re Obi-Wan, I think the reason why I don't follow you on your first one:
1. Would actually like a nice, conventional (for certain not-exactly-standard definitions of conventional) and unexciting life. He knows he is not going to get one, even when living out in the middle of nowhere, ass-end of the universe, Tatooine.
is that I think he has a streak of the wildly idealistic and romantic hiding in him - which never leads to a nice conventional life :)
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