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Jan 09, 2009 16:40

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I'm starting to get comments from people saying this now:
-- These crazy race-obsessed Avatar fans all hate these INNOCENT CHILD ACTORS. I pity the poor darlings. I'm so magnanimous! WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN....okay. No fan is gonna hate ( Read more... )

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glockgal January 12 2009, 03:46:47 UTC
*eagerly consumes your posts on the airbender forum* Holy jeebus, lady. I don't know how you are simultaneously so well-spoken and polite on the internets, I really, really don't. Your skill for debunking is PHENOMENAL. I AM SO IN LOVE WITH YOU AND YOUR WORDS.

I'm trying to assemble a set of quotes for AAW to use when writing letters to the media, and I hope it's okay that I'll be using great swathes of your stuff! Because you don't just have the historical know-how, you have the perspective.

Oh man, creating a visual comparison between Euro-fantasy and Avatar would be....oh so very pretty, but probably still not hammer the point home to people who are STILL saying "But Aang looks white!" ARGH. I JUST. ARGH. Still, I should try and entice a YouTuber to create one. ;D

When Bryan and Mike do everything to make this show and world and people Asian (-American-ish), short of slapping blinking signs saying "AZN" on them and plastering them with yellowface caricatures, and people still go "THEY'RE TOTALLY WHITE," I'm thinking there's just no helping those ones.

DID I ALREADY MENTION HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU????? That's it, I'm totally using this quote in my welcome post and userinfo. <333333333333

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vejiicakes January 12 2009, 04:26:46 UTC
Somehow it seems to have degenerated into talk of Alcatraz (and you know, I've been to San Francisco plenty, and still I've never been! ..not really interested in water-isolated prisons though. Heh, I wonder if The Duke would protest that Harry Potter wasn't at its core a British work and should've been set in America, because Azkaban is totally the magical Alcatraz.)

It's totally okay! Just make sure to look over them for spellos and grammatical weirdness. I do that with alarming frequency -_-

You know, I wish the people defending the cast had like ONE argument and stuck to it. I don't mean that I wish they all had the same reason (well, that would make things easier) but it's like when you argue with just one of them, and you debunk their point, then they make it about something else.

"They don't look Asian!"
[point about designing for animation and outdated presumptions of what it is to 'look Asian']
"Well they're not IN Asia!"
[point about cultural accuracy even in a fantasy production and how this affects the whole visual language of the show]
"Well that doesn't mean they can't be played by Caucasians!"
[point about yellow/brownface and how historically rife and offensive it is]
"Well you can't exclude white people from casting!"
[point about how casting calls do it ALL the time if they're casting for a particular race which, as covered, they ought to be]
"That's reverse-racism!"
[point about how Caucasian actors were historically and still are the most privileged performers in Hollywood who will never ever have a shortage of jobs, and also "reverse-racism" is the stupidest term ever conceived, not the least because it implies a sense in which the privileged class being racist is the norm/proper]
"Well I'm not going to assume foul play unless there's proof!"
[point about how there's this thing called learning from history..]
"You're hurting my feelings by saying I believe racist ideas!"
[point about how YOU'RE HURTING MY FEELINGS BY BELIEVING RACIST IDEAS and being in the GODDAMNED MAJORITY]

It's like look, if you think you have a point, stick with it. OWN it. Don't pretend it's a frillion other things that are equally as fallacious because I'm getting whiplash from all the course-changing you're doing with your lame ass arguments and I GOT SHIT TO DO M'KAY? O_o

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vejiicakes January 13 2009, 06:06:27 UTC
Huh, I just noticed that the discussion has moved to an entirely different thread in the General Discussions!

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glockgal January 13 2009, 16:07:01 UTC
Oh noes! *ROLLS EYES* You crazy people and your need to keep talking about race! I mean, it's so passe - racism is over.

*PUNCHES THINGS* I love the fact that no one learned ANYTHING and Mr The Duke is still the same idiot it was when he started pretending your valid arguments didn't exist.

'Oh no, this Vejiicakes person makes sense and calls me on my condescending arguments! Let's talk about Alkatraz, la la la! Lookit me, I'm such a fantastic Avatar fan, unlike these crazy race-obsessed people mucking everything up!'

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