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Quelle surprise. I'm overcaffeinated and oversleepinated. Add that to Show squee, and I had a lot of time to kill, even after a second viewing. This was the result. I am genuinely curious about reaction to so much of this episode, so please pimp far and wide. This is a rare unlocked post here for maximum reaction gathering. Also, feel free to

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My favorite favorite favorite part was hands down Dean slapping the diner demon and then throwing money at her. AMAZING. I can't even explain why that was so great except, damn. He knew exactly how insulting he was being by throwing money at her and the "For the pie" was such a lie it was even better, and by the time you've worked through that, you realize that he SLAPPED A WOMAN. which is A NO NO, and he knows that, but it really delineates the difference between Women and Demons to Dean in 2 minutes rather then 12 episodes about how demons are not people and women are nice and to be treated with Respect.

I am also so pleased with the angel aspect because I want Dean to be a hero! this is why I love Casablanca so much! Everyone is trying to do the right thing and its hard, but important! And Dean and Sam are going to save everyone! I am just delighted and really happy with the series--it hasn't let me down yet.

I do think that being an instrument of god, old testament or not, is A Good Thing. I expect a lot of angst about why god to so goddamned long to step in, and a ton of "wtf, why are you an omnipresent douche bag, god, jesus christ" from Dean and Sam but I feel pretty good about the fact that they will beat the bad guys and can have the life they've always wanted!

Can you tell I fucking love this show?!

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I loved every second of the diner scene because it was a level of badassery we have not yet seen Dean reach, but this is New! Improved! Back-from-Hell! formula Dean, and every bit of me loved that--especially after the reveal, when we know he is a righteous sonofabitch. But, immediately after the scene, I facepalmed like a mofo thinking of how fandom would react. At no point did I think "woman"--except for as long as I was supposed to, while she was their waitress, which was the point of writing that role as a woman, for the reveal--I thought "demon." But fandom's constant discussions of the treatment of women has oversensitized me. Frankly, I like that they're still putting the show and how they present it (because I don't think it's misogynistic) above what a segment of fandom thinks (not that I think those concerns by those people are absurd, I just see it differently).

I LOVE the angel thing! I am so excited for this season!

Also, answer the poll, bitch! ;)

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BITCH I DID. GOD.
Between the "wah wah god is love and angels don't do that" and "Women are to be treated with RESPECT and this show DOES NOT EVER and Sam and Dean are the MAN and OPPRESSING US because NOW I HAVE TO CLEAN BECAUSE THE DEMON LADY GOT HIT" posts I have constructed clever filters to make me the least annoying to them and them the least annoying to me. No, no, their opinions are totally valid and yes, I can see what they are concerned about, but. I dunno, I feel like Supernatural is not a dissertation or indictment of social institutions and the effects of religion as a patriarchal society. If you do, that's TOTALLY FINE. GO you with your bad self. Its just. Like, ok. I have seen some great shows and read some great books and papers on that. I do not come to Supernatural to fulfill my second or third wave feminism needs. I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A GOOD FEMINIST, OKAY! I'm sorry, but they are hot and they cry and have man pain. And sometimes Jenson Ackles is cross eyed and my cold cold heart melts. Because Dean misses his mom and her sandwiches and her love and wants to keep his family safe and that's ALL. GOD this show.
Also, I would be so offended if all the villains were men. I kind of love it when women are the bad guys.

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YOU DID IT ALL IN THE WRONG ORDER AND I GOT CONFUSED!!! *is pretty*

Great vengeful angels, I miss you!!!! I am totally subscribing to your newsletter based on everything you just said there. I actually find Sam and Dean to treat ACTUAL women with a GREAT DEAL of respect. Women possessed by demons? Not so much.

ALSO, I feel like this show casts a great many characters of color in really interesting roles that are not written to be played by a white person or a person of color, just a person. The fact that those characters often die? Well, the only people who live on this show are Bobby and certain people in peril (often women, whom Sam and Dean have treated with great respect, even if they had to save their asses--which I have taken as a combo of TV wants hot guys saving hot babes + most people don't know about what Sam and Dean hunt, and so their asses need to be saved, no matter their sex or how competent they may or may not be when FREAKY SUPERNATURAL SHIT IS NOT INVOLVED). Sam and Dean aren't even safe from being killed on this show. And, to bastardize a Springsteen quote "Baby, maybe everything that dies, someday comes back." (I'm not trying to spoil, but I watched the preview for next week, and there's a big argument against the "all women and POCs are brought on only to be killed" thing.)

I also REALLY REALLY love it when the women are the bad guys. Or the black men are the interesting, layered, complex recurring characters who are not written as "Black Man."

DEAN MISSES HIS MOM'S SANDWICHES.

That may be the most profound thing you have ever said.

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I was trying to fall asleep last night and I was thinking about how weird having a threesome would be (for ME, because I am not, suave or coordinated and that's just too much to pay attention to, ok) and how the weird factor would be multiplied by like 1,000 if it was with your sibling and I kept giggling. Alone in my bed at 4 am. Because I never thought about it before, but the idea of a guy taking home hot twins is like a hot awesome (unrealistic) fantasize that gets a lot of play on tv, but really, when you think of it? IT'S YOUR SIBLING. HOW WEIRD. You are not invited INDEED.

I like that people want to be thinking about social issues, don't get me wrong, but I can't get worked up over TV shows when four million people are uninsured, in California there is a proposition to VOTE ON RIGHTS for minorities (!!!!!!!) and the polls are neck and neck between obama and mccain.