Some thoughts on harvest-witches/Gilnean druids.

Aug 12, 2011 12:50

NOTE: This is out of date until I update it according to Ask Creative Development - Round III Answers.  A lot of what originally appeared solid is now contradicted.
Since their lore seems sparse as hell, I figured I would go and chase up every teeny bit of lore I could find (Namely npc quotes).  From taking the quotes and running with them, I think ( Read more... )

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gizzybiscuits August 13 2011, 12:22:01 UTC
OMG CRITICISM ELITEST

And yeah I did get repetitive, my bad.

The quote takes place during Gilneas' evacuation, when they're all on the Kaldorei's boats. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/genngreymane.html#4 So they could of just learned birdyform off the Night elves by then, though they would've had to of been fast learners in that case.

I should really go through the starting zone again to see when exactly they got it - I'd say 'Celestine knew a lot of the old ways already and should of been able to offer the forms from the start if that were the case' but that's going by game mechanics a bit. No point in having the level five trainer show off a skill you can't use yet at the start. I'm kinda leaning on 'no animalforms until Night elves happened', perhaps it was implemented in that part of the questing 'cause its meant to be round-about when the Kaldorei show up?

Soo...Yeah I guess it could be either way and that I'm just a bit stubborn. Blizzard must answer 3:.

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malkiria August 13 2011, 18:37:26 UTC
Ah, I see. Your entry lacked the full quote.

"Then the massive crows morphed. Genn was still getting used to seeing this transformation. He had heard that druidism was practiced among some of Gilneas's agrarian folk, but he hadn't been exposed to it until recently. The bird shapes twisted and jerked, wrenching their anatomies into their more natural forms-those of kaldorei druids, two males and one female."

They were not harvest-witches, but Night Elven druids, which basically means we are still without a proper lore answer to the question which plagues us Worgen Druid roleplayers.

As for when one gets the Cat form, as I said, it may just be a mechanic, but one actually gets it just -before- meeting the Night Elves, not after.

Besides, if it were to represent that, as well as if those stormcrows were Gilnean, it would mean that the Gilnean Druids learnt the Druid forms in a matter of minutes, or possibly a few short days.

I think it is much more likely that the animal forms were a secret part of the Gilnean druid order, that they did not share with other non-druids because all the witch accusations were bad enough as it was. No need to pour gasoline on the fire.

Of course, that is just speculation, but so is saying that they didn't learn that knowledge until after meeting the Night Elves.

As well, Night Elves do not hold a monopoly on Druid forms. The Tauren and the Trolls developed their Druid forms completely separate from the Night Elves, so why couldn't the Gilneans?

On a more personal note, to roll a Worgen Druid and then say "no animal forms" would be akin to rolling a Priest and saying "no healing spells" or rolling a Warlock and saying "no demon minions." It's just bleh. Why did we even roll the class in that case? Why does it even exist at all?

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gizzybiscuits August 13 2011, 22:17:13 UTC
Well, I think of it as that they would of learned the animal forms later (And apparently humans have a bit of a speedy affinity for magic) but yeah - this is confuuusing. I'll go edit.

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