Straight Privilege in the Church

Mar 23, 2009 12:56

Here is a combined list of what y'all and others came up with.  Continued additions quite welcome!

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peaceofpie March 23 2009, 19:52:00 UTC
Since you are addressing heterosexual privilege in this list, rather than gender-normative privilege, I think it would be more accurate to use "gay, lesbian, and/or bisexual" instead of terms that include "transgender".

I've become enormously aware lately of the degree to which it is a problem when faith communities use "GLBT" when talking about issues that are really about sexuality.

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giniliz March 23 2009, 20:05:19 UTC
but the fact of the matter is that people based sexual orientation on the perceived genders of the people involved, and thus the sexual orientations of transpeople are constantly under scrutiny. besides, when folks don't put "T" at the end, they are accused of bias. trust me, i've tried many times on campus. it just doesn't fly. so instead, i point out that ultimately, issues of sexual orientation are actually issues of gender conformity (women are supposed to be attracted to men, for instance) and the whole thing comes down to some serious issues with gender. they aren't really seperable. g, l, and b people are gender-nonconforming, too, and i don't make hierarchies of who is non-conforming enough to be considered losing "gender normative privilege."

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giniliz March 23 2009, 20:11:24 UTC
also, in the case of things like:

be vocally supportive of lgbt people with less risk, fewer accusations of bias, and more “thank you”s than an lgbt person who does the same.

it was done intentionally, because gay people don't get those passes when advocating for gender-nonconforming people. we're talking about what STRAIGHT people get to do here, and they get to do some things in relation to l, g, b, AND t people that l, g, and b people don't.

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fierceandsassy March 23 2009, 20:13:36 UTC
exactly

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peaceofpie March 23 2009, 20:15:26 UTC
ack! you wrote new comments while i was replying to your old comment, but now i'm going to take a nap and don't have time to see if my comment remains relevant.

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giniliz March 23 2009, 20:34:31 UTC
okay, well, take a look later. when i say "straight people can receive congratulations for being so open and inclusive when an lgbt person comes to their church and is treated well." i mean it. g, l, and b people don't get the same congrats for for being inclusive of even transpeople. it's considered a given by straight people (the focus of this list). the places where the "alphabet soup" is listed here are intentional. though i am well trained in the queerapologetics idea that "we have to make sure we don't just tack on the t," i also know that it doesn't always mean that t shouldn't be added just because we're talking about sexual orientation. if you'll re-read the list and tell me precisely where the t doesn't belong with regard to a privilege straight people have, that would be far more helpful than just telling me what every queerapologetics FAQ on the internet tells me.

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peaceofpie March 23 2009, 21:30:50 UTC
i don't know anything about this queerapologetics, i've never even heard of that. my discontentment with this is based on the impact i have seen this have in real life, not something i read on the internet.

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giniliz March 23 2009, 22:44:40 UTC
has THIS impacted your life? has saying that straight people have certain privileges even with regard to "t" topics really impacted your life? how so?

queerapologetics is the word i use to refer to things that are "going around" and that i hear all the time and seem to pop up without regard to the specific instance at hand. the idea that "t" should never be included in the alphabet soup when discussing matters of sexual orientation is a queerapologetics meme that i encounter daily from people who don't take the time to consider the specific case in which it is happening but simply bring out a queerapologetics response. so i am saying that i need more than what i could find in FAQs about how problematic including the "t" is to think it isn't right to include the "t" here when i did so very purposefully.

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fierceandsassy March 23 2009, 20:39:06 UTC
i don't see the problem.

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