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gillo

Thoughts being thinky.

Mar 25, 2015 00:26

First of all, a link to a funny list of Every Argument About Buffy on the Internet. An example:

Spuffy Is Problematic

Bangel Is A Child’s Delusion Of What Love Is
Spuffy Is Literally Assault
Okay But He Felt Really Bad About It And Didn’t Have A Soul

Second, I do hope you are following the rewatch we are doing at fantas_magoria - yesterday we ( Read more... )

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rahirah March 25 2015, 01:59:32 UTC

Given that Spike is an Englishman born in the 1850s, I would be stunned if he didn't have attitudes which would today be called racist, sexist, imperialist, etc. even with a soul. However, I rather doubt that particular scene is evidence of them.

(I am reminded suddenly of a story Gabrielleabelle wrote once where she portrayed Spike as a pedophile who constantly struggled with his desire to rape Dawn, even when he had a soul. Not, she said, because she thought that was really truly the case in canon, but because vampires are BAD, mmm'kay? and Spike fans should constantly rub their own noses in that fact in order to... um... I dunno, I was rolling my eyes too hard to keep following the argument by that point. Spike did so many actual bad things that inventing them seems rather excessive.)

velvetwhip March 25 2015, 07:13:14 UTC

A pedophile? Really?

Gabrielle

rahirah March 25 2015, 14:55:49 UTC

Yep. I dunno. Gabs wrote some interesting meta, but that story didn't work for me.

gillo March 26 2015, 00:18:23 UTC

Her meta on S6 was very good, but I don't quite see how she got there.

gillo March 26 2015, 00:03:44 UTC

My goodness. I do know Michelle Trachtenberg is reputed to have had a crush on JM, and the writers kept them rather more separated in S7. True or not, I don't know. It's not exactly the same as the character being a paedophile. Spike probably did rape as well as feed on young girls in his vampiric prime, of course. It's more or less canonical.

It's interesting; veal is definitely primarily white meat to me. Not that I often buy it, mind you, except when in France or Italy, when it's ubiquitous.

rahirah March 26 2015, 00:53:33 UTC

Chicken or pork would be the white meat associations for me. Or turkey. I know intellectually that veal is pale, but I'm not sure I've ever even eaten any ( ... )

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