Oh dear
The owners of two FB pages with "borrowed" artwork have been feeling oppressed.
Viz: Spikey William The-Bloody Pratt: Spuffy
People are accusing us of stealing their pics, and we are not...Please leave us alone. I am bipolar and you are messing with my moods. Do you even have a heart. I don't think so...
Spikey William The-Bloody Pratt: Spuffy
18:17 (3 hours ago)
My Fiance and I find all our pics On Google and Bing. So if you have a complaint about us posting pics we find there, talk to them about this...!!!!!!!!!!!
This page has deleted all the comments by alwaysjbj and others, including me.
ETA new responses from the page owners. I expect to see implosion soon.
Spikey William The-Bloody Pratt: Spuffy We have done nothing wrong, and you people are doing nothing but cause problems for me and my fiance...You believe what ever you want. But we are not thief's...And you know nothing about Bi polar or any mental illness...You live my life and tell me what a living hell it is...Thanks alot for making me think about deactivating our page...I can't deal with people like you and you bullshit.....
(Later)
You know nothing about me as well...My entire family is dead and I have several mental illnesses...WE DID NOT STEAL ANY PICS...WE FOUND THEM ON GOOGLE AND BING....I HAVE NO REASON TO APOLOGIZE, I DID NOTHING WRONG....!!!
ETA again And the page has gone from my feed. I've been banned. This is a first. I'm almost proud. Yet I can still see their posts when people comment, because FB is just that inept these days!
Then there's Buffyextreme:
This is a conversation I had, under a very pretty manip of Tara. I didn't recognise the artist:
Gill Othen Who created it? It's only polite to give credit.
16:27 (5 hours ago) · Like · 1Reply
Buffyextreme true but im not sure who made it but they did a great job xxx ~Xander
16:36 (5 hours ago) · LikeReply
Gill Othen Buffyextreme: They really did - but it's a bit unfair to repost without permission, isn't it? I know a number of people who make this sort of thing and they get very upset when they see their work reposted without credit.
16:40 (5 hours ago) · Like · 2Reply
Buffyextreme i know they would but i think they would also be happy that we shared it because it shows the fans how amazing there work is and this is a really beautiful picture that someone had did i found this on the internet and is doesnt say who created it but they do deserve to have there name on it xx ~Xander
16:43 (5 hours ago) · LikeReply
P...n Then perhaps you should be making a very strong effort to locate the creator so that you can give them credit. And get their permission to post it. Just because you may have gotten it from someone who posted it without credit or permission, does not make it all right for you to do so too.
19:53 (2 hours ago) · LikeReply
Buffyextreme I know that a lot of pages find images from Google Images, which is a public domain. My admins don't mean any disrespect by posting without credit, but sometimes, there is simply no way to find out the original content creator. It's not like Xander's administrator is trying to take credit. Far from it, actually. ~Buffy
20:03 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
P...n No one is accusing anyone of trying to take credit. It's just a question of being as fair as possible to the creators. Google may be a public domain, but that doesn't mean everything found there was meant to be public.
20:07 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
P...n Putting Spike Images into Google provides the image page. Clicking on the image sends you to a larger version which includes where it came from (artist's name if appropriate) and at the bottom is a very tiny message that some of the images may be subject to copyright rules. Most of the ones I saw there were publicity shots or comic-related.
20:13 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
Gill Othen Google is a search engine, not a store of public domain images. It does say on the image search that the images may be subject to copyright. I know some creators who are really upset that their work is taken without credit.
20:15 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
Buffyextreme We understand, however Xander's admin is younger and didn't know. It was a slip up. She meant no harm, disrespect, or unfairness by it. ~Buffy
20:15 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
Buffyextreme It was a slip up please stop jumping down the throats of my admins i really dont appriciate it we always say if its an edit we found to give credit to the creator if we forget We all human after all and make errors so please stop harassing my -page owner Angel
20:22 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
P...n Well, given that some of the images I saw there were banners from my website (where the creator is clearly identified) and others were made by a very close friend, I feel we had a right to let you that those were not acceptable. No one is "jumping down...See More
20:34 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
Buffyextreme Okay I accept that and there is a disclaimer in the page in the notes section that gives credit to creators we could not find names for thank you not please stop -Angel
One name edited by me to preserve identity.
So, clueless, victimised, harassed or just plain selfish and stupid?
And should I feel guilty? If so, about what?
Viz: Spikey William The-Bloody Pratt: Spuffy
People are accusing us of stealing their pics, and we are not...Please leave us alone. I am bipolar and you are messing with my moods. Do you even have a heart. I don't think so...
Spikey William The-Bloody Pratt: Spuffy
18:17 (3 hours ago)
My Fiance and I find all our pics On Google and Bing. So if you have a complaint about us posting pics we find there, talk to them about this...!!!!!!!!!!!
This page has deleted all the comments by alwaysjbj and others, including me.
ETA new responses from the page owners. I expect to see implosion soon.
Spikey William The-Bloody Pratt: Spuffy We have done nothing wrong, and you people are doing nothing but cause problems for me and my fiance...You believe what ever you want. But we are not thief's...And you know nothing about Bi polar or any mental illness...You live my life and tell me what a living hell it is...Thanks alot for making me think about deactivating our page...I can't deal with people like you and you bullshit.....
(Later)
You know nothing about me as well...My entire family is dead and I have several mental illnesses...WE DID NOT STEAL ANY PICS...WE FOUND THEM ON GOOGLE AND BING....I HAVE NO REASON TO APOLOGIZE, I DID NOTHING WRONG....!!!
ETA again And the page has gone from my feed. I've been banned. This is a first. I'm almost proud. Yet I can still see their posts when people comment, because FB is just that inept these days!
Then there's Buffyextreme:
This is a conversation I had, under a very pretty manip of Tara. I didn't recognise the artist:
Gill Othen Who created it? It's only polite to give credit.
16:27 (5 hours ago) · Like · 1Reply
Buffyextreme true but im not sure who made it but they did a great job xxx ~Xander
16:36 (5 hours ago) · LikeReply
Gill Othen Buffyextreme: They really did - but it's a bit unfair to repost without permission, isn't it? I know a number of people who make this sort of thing and they get very upset when they see their work reposted without credit.
16:40 (5 hours ago) · Like · 2Reply
Buffyextreme i know they would but i think they would also be happy that we shared it because it shows the fans how amazing there work is and this is a really beautiful picture that someone had did i found this on the internet and is doesnt say who created it but they do deserve to have there name on it xx ~Xander
16:43 (5 hours ago) · LikeReply
P...n Then perhaps you should be making a very strong effort to locate the creator so that you can give them credit. And get their permission to post it. Just because you may have gotten it from someone who posted it without credit or permission, does not make it all right for you to do so too.
19:53 (2 hours ago) · LikeReply
Buffyextreme I know that a lot of pages find images from Google Images, which is a public domain. My admins don't mean any disrespect by posting without credit, but sometimes, there is simply no way to find out the original content creator. It's not like Xander's administrator is trying to take credit. Far from it, actually. ~Buffy
20:03 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
P...n No one is accusing anyone of trying to take credit. It's just a question of being as fair as possible to the creators. Google may be a public domain, but that doesn't mean everything found there was meant to be public.
20:07 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
P...n Putting Spike Images into Google provides the image page. Clicking on the image sends you to a larger version which includes where it came from (artist's name if appropriate) and at the bottom is a very tiny message that some of the images may be subject to copyright rules. Most of the ones I saw there were publicity shots or comic-related.
20:13 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
Gill Othen Google is a search engine, not a store of public domain images. It does say on the image search that the images may be subject to copyright. I know some creators who are really upset that their work is taken without credit.
20:15 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
Buffyextreme We understand, however Xander's admin is younger and didn't know. It was a slip up. She meant no harm, disrespect, or unfairness by it. ~Buffy
20:15 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
Buffyextreme It was a slip up please stop jumping down the throats of my admins i really dont appriciate it we always say if its an edit we found to give credit to the creator if we forget We all human after all and make errors so please stop harassing my -page owner Angel
20:22 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
P...n Well, given that some of the images I saw there were banners from my website (where the creator is clearly identified) and others were made by a very close friend, I feel we had a right to let you that those were not acceptable. No one is "jumping down...See More
20:34 (about an hour ago) · LikeReply
Buffyextreme Okay I accept that and there is a disclaimer in the page in the notes section that gives credit to creators we could not find names for thank you not please stop -Angel
One name edited by me to preserve identity.
So, clueless, victimised, harassed or just plain selfish and stupid?
And should I feel guilty? If so, about what?