Talking About Not Talking

Aug 22, 2009 03:53

I'm sick of talking about how I don't want to get married. I'm really tired of making fun of the entire institution. I like a good argument, I can't deny that, but it's gotten to the point of being ridiculous. Now if only all the parents and youth workers and teachers and whoever else watched me grow up would stop asking me, "When are you gonna ( Read more... )

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nur_jahan August 24 2009, 14:29:45 UTC
so, you like a good argument: why don't you want to get married? I need a list of good reasons.

I know you mentioned a few things in the past, about how you don't think you could live with someone...have someone touch your things, or something to that nature...is that it, then?

(you don't have to answer if you don't want to...I'm going thru a sort of transformation myself...I thought I had to get married, so I didn't want to for the longest time (for more reasons than just rebellion), and now I really want to get married...so, you don't have to answer, I just like talking about it for good conversation, and i'm bored)

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geektown August 25 2009, 22:52:58 UTC
I think rebellion played a part in it long ago, but what really started me out on this no marriage path was realizing when I was younger that a lot of people I knew who were married had to give up a lot of dreams to do so. When I realized that, I decided I would not get married any earlier than thirty ( ... )

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nur_jahan August 27 2009, 17:43:07 UTC
I think I understand what you mean ( ... )

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geektown August 28 2009, 20:40:55 UTC
I have friends I'm close enough to, we can read each others minds or know what the other is going to say. Although I will say I can't conceive of wanting to be with someone so much that I can't stand being apart. That just doesn't register with me. Maybe it's just that I'm weird. Maybe I'm wrong and haven't met the right person. All I know is that if I got away from my theoretical wife for a weekend, I would be uncomfortable with how awesomely delighted I was ( ... )

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drrocketanski September 5 2009, 20:52:04 UTC
My initial response to your wanting a justification for marriage is just for you to go back and read your post. Your words are an argument against, your (at least apparent) motivation seems like an argument for marriage ( ... )

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geektown September 5 2009, 21:32:51 UTC
Well, obviously you're wrong on so many levels. :)

Really, though, while I disagree (obviously; it's my lot in life to be disagreeable) I do appreciate the answer and will post more fully at a later time. After I digest it a little more thoroughly.

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geektown September 10 2009, 08:05:56 UTC
Alright, I'll have a quick go at this ( ... )

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geektown September 10 2009, 08:06:32 UTC
And to continue my thoughts past the allowed limit ( ... )

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nur_jahan September 10 2009, 21:37:28 UTC
on selfishness: I know quite a few guys who won't say more than two words to me if they think I'm not a girl that they would want to date. Its this whole thing with being careful and not hurting or getting into anything that could pontentially be detrimental....there's a huge loss of relationships (friends or w/e) there....there's this huge differentiation between those who you WILL 'give it all' (marry) to and those who you WON'T 'give it all' to.

anyway...the Bible says something about not getting married unless you need to because you lack the will power, so that you can be more useful to those in need, so that you can truley love and assist those people.

So the person who is married and/or looking for seomeone is always going to be hindered in his work because of his extreme caution....or, rather, his work will be a kind of a very specific sort.

Don't get me wrong, I think there needs to be caution, but it is a lot less if we have made up our minds to not date anyone

...just some thwauts [thoughts]

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geektown September 10 2009, 22:59:36 UTC
Right. And those guys who won't talk to you are called idiots. I'm not a huge believer that guys and girls can be close friends without one or the other wanting more, but that doesn't mean there can't be ANY relationship. And the best relationships usually start out as friendships. So if they decide preemptively they're not interested, they're idiots, douchebags, ass jacks ( ... )

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drrocketanski September 10 2009, 21:48:04 UTC
My anger is exceeding now. Blasted Starbucks internet DCs you if you are on a web page for too long. So I just lost about 4000 words of a post ( ... )

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drrocketanski September 10 2009, 21:48:53 UTC
(continuing ( ... )

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geektown September 10 2009, 22:52:32 UTC
Now all that I can agree with. I've said to other people the idea of marriage is the closest we come to God and the church and even God within the trinity...which may have been an idea I stole from you. Or my friend Brad. I don't know anymore. I like to attribute when attribution is good but how do you source something when you're no longer sure of the source? Maybe I'm the source. Uhm. Anyway.

I'll say more later, but I don't think you sound stupid when you say it's about the sex. That seemed to be the dividing line between marriage and everything else. I'm actually encouraged you said it. I thought I was being dumb and crude, but I guess I'm not totally alone.

More later. Maybe. For not wanting to talk about marriage, this has been an interesting conversation with everyone.

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