Trying to see the other side... Male Rights Activists

Apr 18, 2010 13:24

So I've been poking around reading articles at and linked to from http://www.the-spearhead.com/

I want to see their points and if they have any valid ones.  It's hard because most of the commentors and articles are centered around how women are evil creatures inacable of loving and evilly withholding sex for large amounts of money.

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anonymous April 19 2010, 05:03:38 UTC
Do you follow the golden rule consistently? Have you never used anyone and kicked them to the curb the moment they stopped being useful? Have you never mooched your friends to buy stuff for you instead of buying it yourself?

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tenou_k April 20 2010, 01:40:30 UTC
I don't know if telling someone "You regained a small amount of my respect (for being honest, which was unexpected, due to the fact that you are untrustworthy)," is actually an olive branch. Proffering reconciliation is not the same thing as a begrudging, snidely backhanded compliment.

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geek_dragon April 20 2010, 04:14:38 UTC
Respect goes two ways. How are you trying to regain her respect?
It's not an olive branch to act as if you are above her, as if she alone has to gain your respect. Why is your respect worth anything to her and why should it be?

Both parties must act respectable to the other otherwise it's just a powerplay and not an olive branch.

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geek_dragon April 20 2010, 21:27:22 UTC
Well if you actually look at what you said, you can see that it's a veiled insult. So maybe you should work harder to make your compliments look like compliments not insults.
By saying it was unexpectedly honest and mature, you show that you expect the person to be dishonest and immature. Dishonesty and immaturity are widely considered to be negative qualities in a person.
By noting that she had regained a small amount of respect, you bring to light that you do not respect her. Why would someone want to intereact with someone who clearly does not respect them, and clearly thinks of them in an unfavourable light?

Also, you burn through peoples repects for you quite badly. It doesn't seem to be a sustainable practice.

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geek_dragon April 22 2010, 03:15:36 UTC
I can't even remember what you guys did to each other. I'm not destiny, I don't have the book of all knowledge strapped to my wrist, and I don't keep grudges even for myself. I actually don't hate that guy from a certain grocery store, or that former neighbour of a mutually known person anymore. So no, I don't remember, and i don't want to remember your dirty laundry list. I vaguely remember that both of you acted badly, and one of you moved on, and the other still seems to be bearing a grudge but would probably deny it as far as I can tell.

I'm not a pushover, and I'm still friends with and respected by the person you are hinting at, so don't feel like you were ditched for becoming a non-pushover.

I can see you being respected in non personal situations. You do take pride in your work.

Do you ever wonder why I'm still friends with 4 people that used to be your friend?

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geek_dragon April 23 2010, 00:00:01 UTC
Ok you might not understand this, but... most people have different spheres in their life. Coworkers and friends are often different spheres. You can confide in your friends, trust your friends, they are close, you can vent, act a bit silly, joke around, and sometimes act in ways that aren't proffesional around them ( ... )

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geek_dragon April 23 2010, 00:00:58 UTC
How do you define the difference between a friend and coworker? Is there a difference to you?
Do you differentiate between personal and proffessional life?

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