I never watched BSG so I can't comment on that, but I'll agree that any ship would work if written correctly. The big mistake they made with Sheyla was to break the "show, don't tell" rule. They talked about it but didn't show it on screen. They seemed genuinely shocked every time someone saw Sparky and never did understand how anyone could question Sheyla. As late as the ComicCon right before S5 aired, Brad Wright said there was something between John and Teyla because he had saved her life so many times. WTF was he smoking? And Gero said the relationship would be developed more in S5. I'm not sure what part of she's pregnant with Kanaan's baby he didn't understand. I guess he didn't get that particular memo.
They should have given them more moments together. They should have actually looked into each other's eyes. Try to find a pic of them doing that when they weren't arguing. I dare you. He should have taken an interest in her culture. I could go on and on. All that would have backed up the ship claims but instead we got Sparky on screen and Sheyla in their muddled minds. And that includes the actors who were told that was the ship of choice.
yeah, we could go on about this all day. I remember seeing a clip of BW in early s1, I think, saying "there is no ship on SGA". And it seems like they kept that idea, even forgetting about the one they were meant to be writing.
I also remember seeing something at a con (on the web) where someone asks about Shelya in s5, and Gero sort of bats it away with "she's just had a baby..."
Saving someone's life is a ridiculous illustration of love, expecially considering John is an Air Force officer. And a decent human being. They generally don't let people die if there's anything they can do about it
And if you start from the "fact" that John lurves the people he saves, does that mean he loved those two guys who he risked his life and his carreer over in Afghanistan?
Actually that's one of the "proofs" Jo Graham uses for her depiction of John as bisexual. She thinks the guy he tried to save in Phantoms may have been a lover. I kid you not.
*headdesk* You really are serious? *headdesk* But that also means he loves Elizabeth because he risked his life for her in TRW. And that actually also means he loves everyone on the expedition, because he risked his life to save all of them in The Siege... And does it mean he loves O'Neill and Woolsey too, because he (let's ignore the others for now) went back to save them :^p
I would never kid about something so stupid my lovelies. The woman is certifiable. IMHO, of course.
She also bought into the notion that the medic in Vegas was a man even though Rodney clearly says "her" in the dialogue. And of course, there's John's comment to Ronon in Sunday about dating a man. So yeah, he's got to be bisexual. Her reasoning insults gays and not-gays alike.
I can understand people pairing, say, Ronon & Radek (which she also does), because there is NOTHING AT ALL to suggest there was anything between them, and people are doing it as a form of entertainment.
But twisting what was on screen into something else is just wrong. I'd argue more that John's Sunday comment meant John thought Ronon might be gay/bi, rather than John being gay himself.
I also checked out the synopsis on Amazon(?) - Death Game can't be good. For anyone.
You're right, her reasoning does insult gays and not-gays alike. And yeah, Rodney does clearly say 'her', is she deaf? I think I missed that comment in Sunday about John dating a man... or did she make that out of the conversation between John and Ronon?
She made it out of the conversation when Ronon said something like "you mean a woman" when John asked him was he dating anyone and John said "or a man". That to her meant John was open to either or maybe he was checking to see if Ronon would be interested in him. I dunno. She lost me. I just saw it as John wondering how things went on Sateda and not wanting to imply anything.
Yeah, that's how I took the Sunday comment too. Ronon needling John about Teyla, John wondering why Ronon spent all that time with Teyla and didn't hook up with her.
If anything, it would mean Ronon. Ronon brought up "you mean a woman". I suppose there is room for interpretation, but I think it's more a commentary on the almost puritanical views of TPTW/Earth towards companionship. Are we really supposed to believe that NONE of the senior staff (except Rodney) had hooked up with anyone in nearly 3yrs (oh, and John in Epiphany)
Yes, tptb want us to believe that everyone of the senior staff were raised in monasteries and believe in no-sex before marriage... Not what they want us to believe in SGU though :^p
They should have given them more moments together. They should have actually looked into each other's eyes. Try to find a pic of them doing that when they weren't arguing. I dare you. He should have taken an interest in her culture. I could go on and on. All that would have backed up the ship claims but instead we got Sparky on screen and Sheyla in their muddled minds. And that includes the actors who were told that was the ship of choice.
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I also remember seeing something at a con (on the web) where someone asks about Shelya in s5, and Gero sort of bats it away with "she's just had a baby..."
Saving someone's life is a ridiculous illustration of love, expecially considering John is an Air Force officer. And a decent human being. They generally don't let people die if there's anything they can do about it
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That just goes to prove anything can be twisted to suit your needs, sadly
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But that also means he loves Elizabeth because he risked his life for her in TRW. And that actually also means he loves everyone on the expedition, because he risked his life to save all of them in The Siege... And does it mean he loves O'Neill and Woolsey too, because he (let's ignore the others for now) went back to save them :^p
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She also bought into the notion that the medic in Vegas was a man even though Rodney clearly says "her" in the dialogue. And of course, there's John's comment to Ronon in Sunday about dating a man. So yeah, he's got to be bisexual. Her reasoning insults gays and not-gays alike.
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But twisting what was on screen into something else is just wrong. I'd argue more that John's Sunday comment meant John thought Ronon might be gay/bi, rather than John being gay himself.
I also checked out the synopsis on Amazon(?) - Death Game can't be good. For anyone.
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And yeah, Rodney does clearly say 'her', is she deaf?
I think I missed that comment in Sunday about John dating a man... or did she make that out of the conversation between John and Ronon?
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If anything, it would mean Ronon. Ronon brought up "you mean a woman". I suppose there is room for interpretation, but I think it's more a commentary on the almost puritanical views of TPTW/Earth towards companionship. Are we really supposed to believe that NONE of the senior staff (except Rodney) had hooked up with anyone in nearly 3yrs (oh, and John in Epiphany)
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Sometimes we read between the lines, but I think she's reading between those in-between-lines...
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Aside from Sateda (the scene on the Daedalus) and the cave scene, there really aren't any unless:
*they're arguing
*he's telling her to get out
*somebody just died
*everyone else just got the same look
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