d20 Gamma World vs d20 Future

Jul 14, 2004 13:23

First, if you haven't read the new In The Works You may want to look down at the entry for d20 Future real quick. Also, there is a discussion regarding it on the d20 Modern boards in this thread. I'll wait while any who need to catch up...

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color me irritated biomekanic July 14 2004, 10:45:35 UTC
I just picked up BESM d20 Revised to get the Mecha rules, among other things.
IMO, a Gamma World Revised would be a good move, clean up all the typos and inconsistencies. Building the communities for my upcoming game, I've noticed a fair number of references to conflicting skills (Knowledge: Technology:Biotech instead of Knowledge:Earth and Life Sciences springs to mind as the most common repeat offender).

As for options 1-3... I'm undecided.

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Re: color me irritated rathess July 14 2004, 10:52:20 UTC
*nods* You and me both (on the Irritated part)

You would think that, if they were granted permission to use a WotC licence (namely Gamma World) that they would attempt to make sure they knew what was happening with d20 Future to make it compatable.

Ah well. :) I am still striving to get my game going... if I don't by the end of July I may just hold off until I get d20 Future then run it after converting my campaign ideas to that...

Also, FYI, I'm hoping that Bruce might make some comments here regarding a possible d20 Gamma World Revised. :)

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Re: color me irritated biomekanic July 14 2004, 11:07:45 UTC
I've got Bruce on my friends page, and he seems pretty happy to be wrapping up the GW, doesn't sound to me like he wants to revisit it any time in the near future either. IMO, it was the rabid hostility of the "But, But, I don't want a rational game, I want to be 11 again! Waa! Waa!" fanboys that burned him out on it.
Or, I could be full of caca, it has been known to happen.

I may hold off creating PCs until I look d20 Future over and see if I want to use it. Right now, we're just beginning character creation.

OT, I've come up with about 1/2 a dozen new community feats, as well as some new plants. I'm considering writing them up and submitting them for publication, to either Dragon or Pyramid. Any thoughts?

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Color me Interested rathess July 14 2004, 11:41:57 UTC
Not sure about the publications, but if you were interested in sharing them here... :D

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Re: Color me Interested biomekanic July 14 2004, 11:57:17 UTC
Oh, for example...
expanded communications feats, feats relating to bio & cybertechnology.

The Fourthly Weed - a plant with a rather aggresive means of clearing out it's competition. The Dwarf Fourthly is also known as 'The Sparkler'

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Re: Color me Interested rathess July 14 2004, 12:11:26 UTC
Oh, I like that. :)

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Re: color me irritated rathess July 14 2004, 11:44:26 UTC
And yes, I think the rabid fanboys (of which I am a tamer and less diseased breed of) was what turned Bruce off on the whole thing. Although, I'm very glad he did it. I love the community rules. :)

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Re: color me irritated eynowd July 14 2004, 15:22:43 UTC
Bruce wasn't the only one turned off, believe me.

Just about all of the GW PHB authors had a rough time after the book was released. I know I found it hard to deal with all the vitriol.

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Re: color me irritated rathess July 14 2004, 15:34:03 UTC
I'm very sorry to hear that. While I found it rough, diamonds start out rough and the community rules are definately in the high points on the shine meter! :)

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Re: color me irritated eynowd July 14 2004, 15:41:11 UTC
Nearly every RPG author I know gets disheartened by the amount of shit that gets flung in our directions when a book comes out and it's not exactly what the fanboys were expecting. It doesn't matter that those expectations may or may not have been reasonable in the first place. They make it out to be all our fault and usually say so in the most vocal manner possible.

I know a stack of people who are questioning their desire to continue writing RPG stuff because of the "fan" reaction. I know I've done it from time to time.

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Re: color me irritated rathess July 15 2004, 04:59:52 UTC
Well that sucks. The rabid fanboys could potentially ruin the hobby for those of us who are just simple fans (or, tame fanboys depending on the game, such as me on the matter of Gamma World).

Please do not lose heart, eynowd.

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Re: color me irritated biomekanic July 15 2004, 09:56:32 UTC
That kind of crap gets on my nerves, that's why I make it a point to tell the authors of any books I like (like you and Bruce with GW) how much I enjoyed your work. It's a sad fact that people are 5 times as likely to publicly bitch about something as they are to praise it. (Source: The US Post office customer survery done back in '92)

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Re: color me irritated rathess July 15 2004, 12:55:38 UTC
I can't quote the source, but I seem to remember hearing similar things back when I was in high school (now this could be my bad memory... but) and if so that was in the 80s

(Red Knights Class of 1988!!!)

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