SDCC 2013 | S9 Spoilers | Some General Thoughts
I guess most of you will have seen the panels and reports from Comic Con by now, so what are your thoughts? Personally, I could not say that I am particularly happy with the information Carver & Co released about S9 so far, but that does not really come as a surprise to me.
( Here be spoilers! Beware! )
( Here be spoilers! Beware! )
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I feel really bad for you because you still care and I want a good season for your sake!
Aww, thanks. I still care about the characters and always will. The show as a whole, though? Not so much. Apart from the brothers, they've stripped everything away from the show that I loved. Okay, I care for Charlie and Garth, but still. I've become a lot more detached this last season than I ever thought possible. I never thought I could let go of the show while it is still on the air, but I feel I've reached that point now. The current show has little to do with the show I fell in love with. Maybe the best I can do is quit and just be happy that I have 7 seasons that I genuinely love, warts and all.
So instead it goes around the same stagnant circles, grinding the characters into dust.Exactly! I think what I hate most is that these narrative circles make a mockery of past development for the brothers. I was so proud when Sam and Dean grew into mature ( ... )
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I'm still bitter that Gamble was so deplored by huge swathes of the fandom just for trying to do something different with the show
I know! I really miss her clear sense of direction and most of all her clear sense of the characters and their history. The lack thereof is my biggest gripe with the current creative team. And now that Edlund left the team as well, there is no actual writer left who was with the show in the early years. I don't count Carver, because for some reason he lost his deft touch with the characters during his absence from the show. Not to mention that I am under the impression that he didn't care to catch up on what he missed in S6/7.
I'd like to say 'yes, stop watching, preserve the love you once had', but it hasn't worked like that for meI am not at the point with SPN yet, where the current downward spiral affects my love for S1-7. I've just rewatched Fresh Blood and Mystery Spot and I felt as affected by them as always. However, I ( ... )
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What I loved most about the Gamble era was that she allowed the characters to grow up. She took them beyond the childish, fratboy humour rut they'd been mired in and let them mature into the seasoned adults they should long since have become. She also allowed their story to be driven by what had gone before - she kept them moving forward. I can't even describe what Carver's team has made of the characters, but forward certainly does not describe their character movement. Bah. Even talking about the show makes me glad I stopped watching. :(
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And I couldn't agree more about Gamble. I also loved that she turned away from internal conflict between the brothers and rather explored what their past life had done to them as individuals and how they deal with that. /sigh It's so tremendously sad that such a huge potion of fandom was unable to see how beneficial Gamble was for the show. :( And yes, Carver regressed the characters. Basically he tried to re-tell the brothers' S4/5 arc in one season - only way, way worse than Kripke - making the characters look like idiots in the process. Ah, well. Nothing we can do about it. Best to ignore it and move on, for our sanity's sake.
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