i know that you wanna be canadian please

Oct 10, 2009 15:17

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delicious thanksgiving like, all weekend people unff
at school on thursday they had thanksgiving food and whatnot, unff

yesterday we did our friday hangout thing, which really does a lot of good for me in all honesty
hanging around at lunch and being ignored like i always was really wasn't what i was going to miss, i was always grasping for when ( Read more... )

irl, i don't even, shopping, irl friends, anime club, school

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panopticam October 10 2009, 22:52:40 UTC
...ouch, that was my soul /crai hard
being a weeaboo is something I am constantly afraid I'm doing. this fear at one point had morphed into a monster that forbade me from ever publicly discussing anything Japanese. now I am... er, cautiously embracing my inner Japanophile.

I suppose there is a time and a place for fantasies. you gotta call it like it is, though, and not pretend you have noble educational ambitions or anything resembling cultural sensitivity, and admit you're the product of...what you're the product of.

cultural bastardization x exotic appeal x local appropriation x the internet x youth subculture x fandom = YOU.

or something like that.
(and I don't mean YOU you, of course)

also I will never understand the weird, self-righteous self-mockery that goes along with this. we're so WEIRD because we like anime and people think we're WEIRD and people DON'T UNDERSTAND US lolololol isn't it great, SPREAD THE VIRUS
perhaps if they ever stopped being ostracized, the majority would be very unhappy
but I suppose that is part of the definition of fantasy: a space away from reality, a place you can go to where the world can't follow

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gakurans October 10 2009, 23:04:34 UTC
i really don't mind weeaboo's as long as they aren't bothering me or speaking against what i like/think...but the thing is the majority of them do and that's what irks me so much about the most of them that i just generalize them

a weeaboo, in the bare minimum, is just someone who wants to be asian
which i definitely wouldn't want, but they seem to have some amazing glorified idea of the whole thing and that irks me to no end too ;;

the thing with these girls is i get the feeling they aren't completely alone in what they like--they have friends who enjoy the same things, but, they think they know so much that they should be like, worshiped because of it or something (we'll kick you out if you don't do what we say/do this/do that etc.) whereas in a "normal" school environment they wouldn't have the chance to be at the "top" like other "popular" kids

i think i'm rambling now i don't know if i'm making sense here orz

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panopticam October 10 2009, 23:18:08 UTC
oh, I see what you're saying - it's the elitism/pettiness/clique behavior/everyone has to like what I like/anime fandom is my personal back yard so quit stomping around in it with your different tastes/rar I are number one dung beetle, all y'all other dung beetles can go eat shit

basically everything that's stupid about the internet, only reincarnated irl?

if this whole conversation is annoying you I'll stop

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gakurans October 10 2009, 23:23:11 UTC
no i totally enjoy it don't worry ♥

and yeah that's exactly it, the people who you meet at cons who you try to have a conversation with and they're just close minded and petty about everything FUCK YOUR FANDOM/SHIP/WIG/CAT MINES BETTER LOL I LIEK MUDKIPS LOL CARAMELLDANSEN OMG SHOOP DA WHOOP

but i also squirm when i see kids trying to be japanese and giving themselves japanese names and all that

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SOAPBOX TIEM THEN D: panopticam October 11 2009, 07:36:42 UTC
heh, one thing that I find absolutely rampant on the internet and in real life is the use of such heavy irony that either a) it is impossible to tell who's serious and who's joking / who's mocking and who's being mocked, or b) everything eventually ceases to be ironic altogether.

I mean, god, look at the life cycle of 1337-speak:
originally an obscure gaming lingo, spoken only among the hardcore elite -> referenced and picked up by Megatokyo; goes viral, becomes popular trend -> hyped and adopted by n00bs across the net; becomes overused, cliché, uncool -> used ironically to mock n00bs and represent idiocy; reclaimed as code for geek lingo with a sarcastic inflection -> eventually fades out, arguably leaving behind a legacy of especially sarcastic spelling conventions

so what do you want? honest to god, what does it even mean anymore

if there's one good thing to be said for internet meme spamming irl, it's that memes are like secret passwords of instant affirmation for lonely teenage souls.

but the downside is that people will act all exclusionary to you about your fandom/ship/wig/cat because they feel like they don't owe you the respect as long as they've got some great unseen collective backing them up. you'd say "why are you so passionately invested in rejecting me? what does that do for you?" and I think the answer is, it doesn't affirm them to you, the person who is standing in front of them, but it does affirm them to something larger and more important in their eyes, and of course I mean fandom, in however broad a sense. which is so silly because fandom isn't an entity, fandom isn't watching the everyday victories you claim in the name of whatever ship you ship, but real people are getting pissed off. I suppose nobody would be militant about shipping if there weren't thousands of other people willing to join theirs and the opposing army D:

and, heh, "trying to be japanese" is such a relative term. like, I fuckin' love the portrait of Commodore Perry because it's a japanese exoticization of an anglo american.
or maybe, it appeals to me because I as the white american asshole am the one exoticizing an exoticization! lol, look at that silly japanese artist who thought blue eyes were blue at the whites. how cute.
tell me what is happening now D:

for whatever reason, there's something about Japan that appeals to this subculture, but that isn't Japan itself. it's what the subculture believes Japan to be: a mess of cross-cultural interpretations, fantasies, things taken out of context, the way Japan has marketed itself to the west and the way the west has chosen to buy into it, all independent and yet interdependent and wow too many words stop stop

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