Cas' detached, "Well, I suppose you have a more informed opinion on the matter," response to Crowley's desperate plea to expel Lucifer from his vessel was a very different Castiel than the one who fought his way to the surface to save Sam.
That bothered me a lot. They had better have a really good explanation for Cas' behavior...unfortunately, given this writing pair, it could very well just be the way they felt like writing Cas, they are not very consistent in writing characters true to canon.
Rowena clearly read the Harry Potter books and made herself a horcrux, then put it in her leg for safekeeping.
How could they all miss the problem with expelling Lucifer and then getting him to help with Amara? Where would Lucifer go? He would need a replacement vessel--where are they going to find a volunteer for that? Although my spidey-senses tingled because when they said the line about finding Luci another vessel, the camera was focused on Sam...I really hope I'm completely misreading that...
How convenient that they happened to have everything for an exorcism right at hand--exorcisms are for demons, Lucifer is an angel...and they referred to exorcising him from Cas???
Your confusion about what the boys' last conversation is supposed to mean is not because of your mental state, it was strange. It would have made sense if Dean had said his last line about 'let's go save him' with irony or some kind of inflection that acknowledged his words were in direct opposition to what he'd just agreed on with Sam, I could have totally understood it. But Dean's inflection was the same as when he agreed they shouldn't save someone from a choice they didn't like. ????
This is such an enormous mytharc, and it needs a really impressive resolution...and a big part of me is scared that they're going to screw it up, and it will hurt more because we've gotten so many great episodes this season.
It's not just the plot of the show that gives me anxiety anymore, it's the worry over whether show will live up or down to its own standards!
They weren't exorcising Lucifer, they were rescuing Crowley by exorcising Crowley, and Sam changed a few words at the end so that he wouldn't be cast into hell and would only be extracted.
As far as I know, Alastair is the only being who knew an exorcism for angels. He expressed regret that he couldn't kill angels and could only send them back to heaven.
Sam changed a few words at the end so that he wouldn't be cast into hell and would only be extracted.
Wow -- that's impressive that you know that/picked up on that! I'm sure you're right, but I admittedly don't know the exorcism phrasing anywhere close to well enough to have discerned that differentiation.
I wasn't surprised that Sam was able to step up and rally with the exorcism to save Crowley (I was impressed, actually, and thought it was cool that the angels and demon inside Cas' vessel could hear him), but I did find it interesting that they went there with the intent to convince one angel to expel another angel, but had a cross and holy water on hand. Guess they wanted to be able to prepared for anything. :)
Yeah, I wasn't sure what they were planning with the expulsion of Lucifer. Unless...and this literally just occurred to me...it was that Cas would expel him and Rowena would immediately grab his spirit and slam it back into the cage using her codex thing. Which was why she was just hanging out back in the back.
As far as the exorcism, my take on that was that Sam just knew it -- because they've done it a time or two -- and they had all the things on hand that they might need based on whatever might happen. Covering all bases kind of thing. But then...you're right that it was interesting they had the cross and holy water ready when they were trying to get an angel out of a vessel, and not a demon (originally).
Ah, well. I'm willing to hand-wave almost anything for our Show. :)
They have done such a great job this season really making me believe again, I think the next six episodes have sincerely amazing potential...but I share your fears to some extent as well. I guess we'll see, right? :)
Thank you for taking time to come by and chat with me.
That bothered me a lot. They had better have a really good explanation for Cas' behavior...unfortunately, given this writing pair, it could very well just be the way they felt like writing Cas, they are not very consistent in writing characters true to canon.
Rowena clearly read the Harry Potter books and made herself a horcrux, then put it in her leg for safekeeping.
How could they all miss the problem with expelling Lucifer and then getting him to help with Amara? Where would Lucifer go? He would need a replacement vessel--where are they going to find a volunteer for that? Although my spidey-senses tingled because when they said the line about finding Luci another vessel, the camera was focused on Sam...I really hope I'm completely misreading that...
How convenient that they happened to have everything for an exorcism right at hand--exorcisms are for demons, Lucifer is an angel...and they referred to exorcising him from Cas???
Your confusion about what the boys' last conversation is supposed to mean is not because of your mental state, it was strange. It would have made sense if Dean had said his last line about 'let's go save him' with irony or some kind of inflection that acknowledged his words were in direct opposition to what he'd just agreed on with Sam, I could have totally understood it. But Dean's inflection was the same as when he agreed they shouldn't save someone from a choice they didn't like. ????
This is such an enormous mytharc, and it needs a really impressive resolution...and a big part of me is scared that they're going to screw it up, and it will hurt more because we've gotten so many great episodes this season.
It's not just the plot of the show that gives me anxiety anymore, it's the worry over whether show will live up or down to its own standards!
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As far as I know, Alastair is the only being who knew an exorcism for angels. He expressed regret that he couldn't kill angels and could only send them back to heaven.
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Wow -- that's impressive that you know that/picked up on that! I'm sure you're right, but I admittedly don't know the exorcism phrasing anywhere close to well enough to have discerned that differentiation.
I wasn't surprised that Sam was able to step up and rally with the exorcism to save Crowley (I was impressed, actually, and thought it was cool that the angels and demon inside Cas' vessel could hear him), but I did find it interesting that they went there with the intent to convince one angel to expel another angel, but had a cross and holy water on hand. Guess they wanted to be able to prepared for anything. :)
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As far as the exorcism, my take on that was that Sam just knew it -- because they've done it a time or two -- and they had all the things on hand that they might need based on whatever might happen. Covering all bases kind of thing. But then...you're right that it was interesting they had the cross and holy water ready when they were trying to get an angel out of a vessel, and not a demon (originally).
Ah, well. I'm willing to hand-wave almost anything for our Show. :)
They have done such a great job this season really making me believe again, I think the next six episodes have sincerely amazing potential...but I share your fears to some extent as well. I guess we'll see, right? :)
Thank you for taking time to come by and chat with me.
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