Well, that pretty much sums it up for me too. I read all the spoilers and it still didn't make it all okay. My first thought after Cas said his last line was, as you may know, "Well, that was dumb."
Personally, IF I was going to go down that road--which I think changing Cas in this way is a huge risk--I'd have made him into a whole new creature. He sucked in all those souls from purgatory, why not? Having him be God, or even "a" god seems silly to me. I know, I'm too serious for my own good, but I can't change that I guess.
Either way, I'm glad we have a season 7 to possibly fix this mess...but I worry that it won't be much better. Please tell me they'll learn from their mistakes and find their groove again! *begs with my eyes*
Now that a week has passed, I'm admittedly more hopeful about what this finale will mean for Season 7.
I'd have made him into a whole new creature. He sucked in all those souls from purgatory, why not
I like this -- and I don't think it's that impossible. I mean, Cas was the only one who called himself "God" all hopped up on power and possibility. Who says he's not mistake as to what/who is in control of him? Y'know?
I think that there's always hope for better and that they've brought our boys so low, stripping them of everything that is light and hope...there's nowhere to go but up. :)
Thank you for reading and taking a moment to share your thoughts. I'm looking forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks.
Aside from that -- don't be a stranger this summer. I'm going to try to post some stuff and would love your thoughts on them -- and my offer is always, always open to read any chapters you have ready, okay? *hugs*
You know, I'll take you up on that offer, when I get it ready! Also, looking forward to seeing you all was well. Well, you know me--in between abject terror and panic. But, you and Terry are totally worth the crazy. ;)
I always enjoy reading your streams of conciseness reviews. I don't always post because I don't always know what to write.I enjoy reading about the show through your descriptions and analysis of the epis. And I wanted to say that I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and view of the show.
Hi -- thank you so much for telling me! It's so nice to hear that these resonate with you. I'm going to be posting a poll when I'm able to finish answering comments. I'm trying to figure out how to continue these rambles next season -- I'd love it if you weighed in on that.
Thanks again for reading and for your time. Hope to see you off and on during the hiatus! :)
I swear I read almost every element of this finale in a fic *somewhere,* even if in a different form. LOVED Jared's performance to bits, and all the other regulars were their usual brilliant selves as well, but that ending... yeah. Bad call, Kripke--angels and Goa'uld don't mix too well. (Though Sam and Dean as Tok'ra? That was MY fic. :D) If we don't get Chuck back, can we at least have Kali as an unfriendly friendly, if not Gabriel?
I was just rereading my SG-1 crossover, and something I had Dean's Tok'ra symbiote say jumped out at me: Dishon kept his eyes on the road, but his voice was grim. "You did not see him as Dean did in that alternate timeline, unable to cope with the loss of his power and the fact that his God and his brothers had abandoned him. Had he been fully mortal, the means he used to combat his despair would have killed him. That depression has already begun. We must not leave him to drown in it."
Given that observation, I think we're seeing a different version of 2014!Cas--he can't cope with being abandoned, and so he gets high... PCP-type high. Only problem is, he brought the abandonment on himself by getting into the deal with Crowley in the first place and then refusing to accept Dean's offer to find another way out ("We can still fix this!" "It's not broken!"). I don't like the ending any better, but it does make more sense to me now.
Oooohh...okay, it's becoming clear. Tok'ra = Stargate. *laughs* I was lost, sorry.
Only problem is, he brought the abandonment on himself by getting into the deal with Crowley in the first place and then refusing to accept Dean's offer to find another way out
This resonates with me. Hurts, but resonates.
I just have to hope that redemption and hope are both found next season.
Thanks for the time you've spent with me and these rambles throughout this season. I've really enjoyed hearing from you and hope to see you next year! Don't be a stranger over the hiatus; I'll be posting a poll on how I should continue these rambles next season and would love your input.
That's my hope, too. The only reason I'm hanging on at all is in the hope of seeing SOME kind of happy ending--it doesn't have to be "They all lived happily ever after," but it needs to be better than *this* mess, for everyone's sake. And I do want Cas to get straight!
I'll be around! Summer's looking plenty busy, but I'll pop in when I can and have something to say. :)
Exactly. I was missing him in the last two episodes like I missed our Sam the whole first part of this season.
And its a bit of a bummer, cause I only really started replying to your posts this season, and I haven't really had many positive things to say.
Just come back next year and keep sharing your thoughts. Short or long, I've always enjoyed them. :)
I know I said it before, but I am sad that the Dean/Cas dynamic has been so badly trashed ... Dean needs more than just Sam and that's why I liked the Dean/Lisa story.
Agreed. Both boys need more than each other; they've had so much taken away from them and have gone through so much they don't have enough in them to be each other's light. They need hope from the outside -- some reason to keep fighting other than simply avoiding death.
I hope next S07 brings a season more like S01, just one major story arc, with plenty of MOTW. Sams hell memories are done and dusted, and they are family again.THIS
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Personally, IF I was going to go down that road--which I think changing Cas in this way is a huge risk--I'd have made him into a whole new creature. He sucked in all those souls from purgatory, why not? Having him be God, or even "a" god seems silly to me. I know, I'm too serious for my own good, but I can't change that I guess.
Either way, I'm glad we have a season 7 to possibly fix this mess...but I worry that it won't be much better. Please tell me they'll learn from their mistakes and find their groove again! *begs with my eyes*
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I'd have made him into a whole new creature. He sucked in all those souls from purgatory, why not
I like this -- and I don't think it's that impossible. I mean, Cas was the only one who called himself "God" all hopped up on power and possibility. Who says he's not mistake as to what/who is in control of him? Y'know?
I think that there's always hope for better and that they've brought our boys so low, stripping them of everything that is light and hope...there's nowhere to go but up. :)
Thank you for reading and taking a moment to share your thoughts. I'm looking forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks.
Aside from that -- don't be a stranger this summer. I'm going to try to post some stuff and would love your thoughts on them -- and my offer is always, always open to read any chapters you have ready, okay? *hugs*
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Thanks again for reading and for your time. Hope to see you off and on during the hiatus! :)
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If we don't get Chuck back, can we at least have Kali as an unfriendly friendly, if not Gabriel?
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Dishon kept his eyes on the road, but his voice was grim. "You did not see him as Dean did in that alternate timeline, unable to cope with the loss of his power and the fact that his God and his brothers had abandoned him. Had he been fully mortal, the means he used to combat his despair would have killed him. That depression has already begun. We must not leave him to drown in it."
Given that observation, I think we're seeing a different version of 2014!Cas--he can't cope with being abandoned, and so he gets high... PCP-type high. Only problem is, he brought the abandonment on himself by getting into the deal with Crowley in the first place and then refusing to accept Dean's offer to find another way out ("We can still fix this!" "It's not broken!").
I don't like the ending any better, but it does make more sense to me now.
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Only problem is, he brought the abandonment on himself by getting into the deal with Crowley in the first place and then refusing to accept Dean's offer to find another way out
This resonates with me. Hurts, but resonates.
I just have to hope that redemption and hope are both found next season.
Thanks for the time you've spent with me and these rambles throughout this season. I've really enjoyed hearing from you and hope to see you next year! Don't be a stranger over the hiatus; I'll be posting a poll on how I should continue these rambles next season and would love your input.
Take care of you!
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I'll be around! Summer's looking plenty busy, but I'll pop in when I can and have something to say. :)
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*high-five*
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*sings "Highway To Hell".
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lol
I went to church this morning and it looks like there's going to be A LOT of us going south.
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Exactly. I was missing him in the last two episodes like I missed our Sam the whole first part of this season.
And its a bit of a bummer, cause I only really started replying to your posts this season, and I haven't really had many positive things to say.
Just come back next year and keep sharing your thoughts. Short or long, I've always enjoyed them. :)
I know I said it before, but I am sad that the Dean/Cas dynamic has been so badly trashed ... Dean needs more than just Sam and that's why I liked the Dean/Lisa story.
Agreed. Both boys need more than each other; they've had so much taken away from them and have gone through so much they don't have enough in them to be each other's light. They need hope from the outside -- some reason to keep fighting other than simply avoiding death.
I hope next S07 brings a season more like S01, just one major story arc, with plenty of MOTW. Sams hell memories are done and dusted, and they are family again.THIS ( ... )
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