1. Cordelia. Because regardless of how awful it was that she didn't tell Buffy about the yearbook photos, she is still the classic joiner--she's a cheerleader and involved in all sorts of school crap. Buffy just showed up with a muffin basket and some campaign posters one week. I mean, obviously there are reasons she wasn't heavy into after-school activities. But from a purely objective standpoint... So, yeah. Cordelia for Homecoming Queen
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I don't know. I have a vague memory of her painting a sign for something, and then stopping to say something mean to Buffy (maybe in School Hard?). For some reason, I had the impression it was for something other than cheerleading. But even if she's just a cheerleader, that's an activity that tends to bleed into all sorts of school-spirit things--bake sales, car washes, pep rallies, going to all the sporting events. It sort of forces you to participate. And at least at my high school, there was sort of this unwritten rule that Homecoming had to do with school spirit (along with normal popularity stuff), while prom was more about being pretty and nice and popular.
Yeah, I think it's just more that she's a cheerleader. I don't see her doing other stuff outside of cheerleading (and the stuff she does for cheerleading like bake sales, but really? Baking? Nope. She's Dip Girl). 'Cause that's party time. Like look at the way she kinda looks down on the Yearbook people or mocks the marching band.
Cheerleading is her team and it's the bestest! Supremacy! We are so unsung. :P
Like look at the way she kinda looks down on the Yearbook people or mocks the marching band.
Yeah. That's actually pretty un-cheerleader-ish of her. I actually would've thought it more realistic if Cordy weren't a cheerleader--just a rich, popular mean-girl (and then homecoming would've been totally fair game). Because, generally, in my experience, cheerleaders aren't openly hostile--especially not based on participation in school activities. This could explain why she didn't win despite her resume.
Oh! But I was also gonna say that it's implied that Cordelia has good grades too--but not too good. While Buffy struggles academically. So, Cordelia's schoolwork makes her appear more involved in school and puts her more in line with the idea of a typical homecoming queen candidate.
Haha, I don't think good grades factor into Homecoming all that much. Bad grades don't help, but really good grades probably don't matter all that much.
That's actually pretty un-cheerleader-ish of her. I actually would've thought it more realistic if Cordy weren't a cheerleader--just a rich, popular mean-girl (and then homecoming would've been totally fair game).
You mean they didn't vote for Homecoming Queen based on GPA at your high school? That's crazy. ;)
I just meant that it factors into the appearance of someone who cares about their high school experience, and by extension, about their school--while academic troubles make it appear like you don't.
I just meant that it factors into the appearance of someone who cares about their high school experience, and by extension, about their school--while academic troubles make it appear like you don't.Yeah, I'd say that factors in more strongly in the first two seasons when it's clear everyone thinks Buffy's kinda weird. But by Season 3, they all know enough about her gig that they write her in for the Class Protector award. I think there'd be a number of people who'd consider her once they realized she was in the running. But she's not the person they'd first think of because she doesn't scream Homecoming Queen
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Because that actually lines up with how Homecoming King and Queen won at my high school.
Yep. Mine too. That's kind of what I was saying above about Cordy not being very cheerleaderish. At my school, bullies didn't get nominated for prom or homecoming court or make cheerleader or even get to be student council officers. I kind of dislike how reductive of the high school experience those stereotypes are. I just don't think they're true for a pretty wide swath of the high school experiences out there.
I wonder if this episode is supposed to actually drive home that Cordy doesn't win Homecoming Queen because of the way she culls popularity (i.e. bullying).I think maybe in a roundabout way it is. I sort of think this episode is commenting on trying to fulfill those teenage dream high school ideals. Especially ideals about teenage femininity. Because here are Buffy and Cordelia competing to be named this hyper-feminine ideal--and despite both of their best efforts--they fail (Cordelia perhaps fails because she's usually a bitch
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Actually I think Cordelia fails to win because she and Buffy concentrated so hard on beating each other that the other two candidates slipped past them.
The other thing that's going on is that, in the past, Cordelia could win things like Homecoming because she was the leader of the popular crowd. Since she's been going out with Xander she's doesn't have the same sort of leadership with that crowd so she can't win the way she used to. But she has enough influence to keep them from uniting behind anyone else. So she instead campaigns one clique at a time.
i just was watching episode four of angel and cordy mentions she was in the top ten percent of her class so she's gotta have some brains. though to be fair a lot of the students in sunnydale are too busy .. dieing or becoming fish monsters to do their homework so it could just be because of a curve.
She was in the top 10% but she was also accepted to some top end colleges as well - and those people probably weren't comparing her test scores against her classmates when they decided to admit her. She was competing with students across the US.
She's a cheerleader and she's smart. Much as I would have liked to have believed otherwise back in the day, the two aren't neccesarily mutually exclusive.
But, in truth, Buffy would have. If Cordelia hadn't been so threatened by Buffy's purpose-driven life that she regularly made a point of trying to prove that Buffy is meaningless within the social structure of the school.
Huh. Interesting.
Also, kudos for catching the Heathers allusion. It's been so long since I've seen that movie, it went right by me.
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Besides being a cheerleader what else is she involved in though?
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So, I still would vote Cordelia.
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Cheerleading is her team and it's the bestest! Supremacy! We are so unsung. :P
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Yeah. That's actually pretty un-cheerleader-ish of her. I actually would've thought it more realistic if Cordy weren't a cheerleader--just a rich, popular mean-girl (and then homecoming would've been totally fair game). Because, generally, in my experience, cheerleaders aren't openly hostile--especially not based on participation in school activities. This could explain why she didn't win despite her resume.
Oh! But I was also gonna say that it's implied that Cordelia has good grades too--but not too good. While Buffy struggles academically. So, Cordelia's schoolwork makes her appear more involved in school and puts her more in line with the idea of a typical homecoming queen candidate.
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That's actually pretty un-cheerleader-ish of her. I actually would've thought it more realistic if Cordy weren't a cheerleader--just a rich, popular mean-girl (and then homecoming would've been totally fair game).
Mean girl, you say?
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I just meant that it factors into the appearance of someone who cares about their high school experience, and by extension, about their school--while academic troubles make it appear like you don't.
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Yep. Mine too. That's kind of what I was saying above about Cordy not being very cheerleaderish. At my school, bullies didn't get nominated for prom or homecoming court or make cheerleader or even get to be student council officers. I kind of dislike how reductive of the high school experience those stereotypes are. I just don't think they're true for a pretty wide swath of the high school experiences out there.
I wonder if this episode is supposed to actually drive home that Cordy doesn't win Homecoming Queen because of the way she culls popularity (i.e. bullying).I think maybe in a roundabout way it is. I sort of think this episode is commenting on trying to fulfill those teenage dream high school ideals. Especially ideals about teenage femininity. Because here are Buffy and Cordelia competing to be named this hyper-feminine ideal--and despite both of their best efforts--they fail (Cordelia perhaps fails because she's usually a bitch ( ... )
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The other thing that's going on is that, in the past, Cordelia could win things like Homecoming because she was the leader of the popular crowd. Since she's been going out with Xander she's doesn't have the same sort of leadership with that crowd so she can't win the way she used to. But she has enough influence to keep them from uniting behind anyone else. So she instead campaigns one clique at a time.
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She's a cheerleader and she's smart. Much as I would have liked to have believed otherwise back in the day, the two aren't neccesarily mutually exclusive.
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Huh. Interesting.
Also, kudos for catching the Heathers allusion. It's been so long since I've seen that movie, it went right by me.
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