TrakMarx interview 2002

May 11, 2008 20:47

trakMARX - What constitutes selling out to The LIBERTINES?
Gary - Playing back up to Westlife.
John - As soon as Carl starts wearing 'Ernie Ball' bandannas on stage.
Peter - Sleeping through it all.

[where was Carl? Was he not there or just not saying anything?]



http://libertines.twinkling-star.com/yorkuni.html

TrakMARX interview by Jean Encoule, 2nd July 2002

The Libertines

Kicking back at the recent US domination of gtr-land come London's ex- rent boy wide-stars, The Libertines. They say you carnt be in the music industry in any way without being a cocksucker. They say The Adverts were crap.

If there's one sure way to get yr. head kicked in around these parts, it's slagging off TV Smith. It's a good job the lads recently delivered the "What A Waster" 45 (Rough Trade) & that music speaks louder than words (ask Mick)!

"What a waster, what a fuckin waster ­ you pissed it all up the wall round the corner where they chased her."

You probably haven't heard "What A Waster" on the radio ­ funny that. Fuckin wasters & two-bob cunts tend to get up playlist schedulers arses, for some reason. God knows why. Still, it caused a bit of a stink ­ raised a few eyebrows ­ sold a few records ­ got the band a nice bit of press. Not that we're cynical bastards or anything.

The Libertines don't mind courting controversy ­ thank fuck. It's been a while since anyone English with a gtr around their neck has bothered to rile anyone other than their gtr tech. The Libertines may know fuck all about r&r history, but they do know how to make a right cockney barrel of noise.

Knees up mother brown, the chancers are in town.

"What A Waster" shimmers with vitriolic abuse. Whether they like it or not, they sound more like The Adverts than The Jam ­ from the gtr sound to the backing vocals ­ pissing in the sink of the land of milk & honey. Straight up the back.

"I Get Along", as perceived by this listener, is a fuck off big slice of prime time These Animal Men. You can just about spot the Kinks jones ­ people will tell me I'm wrong ­ fuck em.

"Mayday" is the punkest cut here. The boot is being well & truly put in. This must have scared the shit out of The Strokes & The Vines live.

Jean Encoule recently "caught up" with The Libertines during sessions for their debut LP:

trakMARX - The LIBERTINES appear to have plenty of attitude - do you mean it, maaaaaaaaaaaaan?
Gary - Music is based on the perception of the listener, if you think it has attitude then I guess it does...
trakMARX - The UK has been starved of decent gtr bands for a while now ­ any theories on why that is?
Gary - The UK has always had good guitar bands, whether they have the chance to be heard is down to the industry...
trakMARX - English-ness in R&R has been conspicuous in its absence lately - what English band's inspire The LIBERTINES?
Gary - My inspiration does not come from other bands, but I do dig the Kinks, Paul Weller and the other usual suspects.
John - Super Furry Animals.
Peter - The Left Hand, Specials.
trakMARX - Posing for pictures with the Union Jack is a double edged sword - it ended up falling on Morrissey - any fears that may happen to The LIBERTINES?
Gary - Urghh, are you kidding?
John - Nowt wrong with a bit of patriotism - every other country is allowed to show it - look at the Americans, they've got stars and stripes everywhere.
Peter - No hopes, no jeans - the flag was superimposed anyway.
trakMARX - The LIBERTINES have skored decent mainstream press so far ­ do you feel any pressure from the "next big thing" tag currently hung around yer necks?
Gary - Don't really read the press so it has no real effect on me, but it is real positive for the band - I think!
Peter - Good question, is it hung there? It used to read 'change please'!
trakMARX - Build em up - knock em down - any worries on that skore?
Gary -If it is gonna happen I can type fast so will be able to get a job at the Islington Council Office...
John - I try to keep my head in the sand on that beach.
Peter - Loads of worries on that score - can't score today...
trakMARX - Certain hacks have been bleating on about The Jam - we hear more of The Adverts - any substance to these observations or is it just lazy journalism?
Gary - You do the math.
John - The Adverts were rubbish and the Jam were amazing - are you trying to insinuate something!
Peter - Mmmmn, better The Jam or the Adverts than Secret Affair...
trakMARX - Considering the NME burnt a gtr on the cover & pronounced R&R dead & buried in the 90's do you perceive any irony in their championing of six string chaos currently?
Gary - They are only human - can't be right about everything.
John - Everyone murders and revives R&R at least twice a year - it's farcical rather than ironic.
Peter - From my brief experience of the NME nothing would surprise me. They are a twisted bunch of addicts and poseurs.
trakMARX - What do you make of this "no name" malarky - desperate bands or desperate press?
Gary - I have no clue.
Peter - ???
trakMARX - Do The Libertines wanna be a part of a scene per se - or stand alone in glorious isolation?
Gary - Scenes come and go. Isolation can be a lonely place...
Peter - The scene is obscene.
trakMARX - What music publications do The LIBERTINES rate?
John - The NME Cartel.
Peter - 'All Quiet on the Western Avenue' fanzine and, of course, trakMARX!
trakMARX - How did you end up on Rough Trade & how long do you envisage staying with them?
Gary - Rough Trade are cool, as long as they want us, or as long as we don't suck.
Peter - Perfect name for a label...you can't be in the music industry (in any sense) without being a cocksucker (apart from strangely, Rough Trade).
trakMARX - Are they capable of delivering the kind of support you need?
Peter - Yes! Probably not, who knows?
Gary - I have yet to receive my free sports car, but everything else has been real cool.
trakMARX - What constitutes selling out to The LIBERTINES?
Gary - Playing back up to Westlife.
John - As soon as Carl starts wearing 'Ernie Ball' bandannas on stage.
Peter - Sleeping through it all.
trakMARX - What constitutes success to The LIBERTINES?
Gary - Playing back up to Westlife - just kidding!!!
John - Leather balaclavas and new socks everyday.
Peter - Revol, love, riots, harmony, disorder...disturbing their sad dreams "is he alright", "no mate, he's a fuck up."
trakMARX - Will you ever end up wanting to play footie stadiums?
Peter - Only Loftus Road...
John - I'm not very good at football.
trakMARX - You weren't looking for mainstream airplay with "What A Waster" - its lyrical content is contentious to say the least - can we expect more of the same no compromise approach in future material?
Gary - Why the hell not.
John - YES!
trakMARX - Have chosen the next 45 yet?
Gary - That would be telling...
John - It's called 'Up The Bracket'.
trakMARX - Have you begun work on the LP yet & is Bernie The Butler @ the controls for that too?
Gary - That too would be telling.
John - We started on Monday 11th July and the Admiral Mick Jones (Clash) is at the helm instead - they have completely different ways of going about things. Mick is a legend.
trakMARX - The LIBERTINES come across as four fiercely individual entities - does this promote harmony or friction or both & is it an essential aspect of yer sound?
Gary - A bit of harmony and friction can bring about a harmonious, angry, loving environment...
Peter - The boys! Very peculiar affair on the whole. Always hysterics, laughter or tears.
trakMARX - Brevity is a refreshing aspect of everything we've heard by you so far - can we rest assured we're gonna get a 16 trak LP @ under 40 minutes?
Gary - Hey!! It will be as long as it takes OK?
Peter - Rest is assured.
trakMARX - How've the recent live dates been going - have you been feeling a street level reaction to the press you been getting?
Gary - We have been having a great time and met some cool people from all over the country...
Peter - The kids are fucked up - got head-butted in Wolverhampton, cigarettes stubbed out in the face, love everywhere though!
trakMARX - The 7" of "Waster" was allegedly ltd edit - any idea how many copies went out?
Gary - Sorry, no idea!
Peter - 3000 at a guess.
trakMARX - All great bands have an awareness of the collectors market ­ are The Libertines that kinda band?
Gary ­ Errr..
Peter ­ Kinda.
trakMARX - Who else do The Libertines rate in 2002?
Gary - Jack Black to rule the world...
John - Super Furry Animals, The Strokes.
Peter - The Left Hand.
trakMARX - What does the rest of 2002 hold in store for The Libertines?
Gary - Lots of fun and good music, hope to see you all soon!!!

interview, john and gary, 2002, article, pete

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