While the water is warm....

[trannylucas]

Ok, I guess I'll jump in with my thoughts on these matters. I'm opening up a different thread because I have a few different thoughts that don't really pertain to who gets to post in this particular community ... just random mind-farts about this whole movement around transitioning

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[ftmichael]

3) If there is a true gender-queer movement that has a true political agenda about eliminating the boxes, wouldn't it follow that these people would NOT transition? I mean if all y'all are saying that gender is in the mind and has nothing to do with genitals, appearance, and so on, then wouldn't it follow that the strongest way to make that point would be from in the body you have?Not all genderqueer people are directly in the middle of the gender spectrum, just like not all bisexual people (indeed, very very few) have an exact 50/50 split of their attraction. I'm genderqueer and happily physically transitioning - on T for over three years, going for top surgery in two months, and saving my pennies for an eventual full hysto - and I don't see that as a contradiction at all. I'm genderqueer because I don't identify within the gender binary, as well as believing that the gender binary doesn't exist at all (not that I don't believe that all those who identify as men or women, or females or males, are kidding themselves - I just

[twitch211]

How can one have body dysphoria if there is no inherent gender? As a toddler think that you should have more male parts than female parts? If that doesn't come from some brain/body incongruence, where can it come from? I don't understand.

[usedtobeme]

as someone who is obsessed with language, i will say this...i grew up without any role dysphoria (until puberty) just body dysphoria. played with the boys, was considered a boy, etc...years later as a butch-ish dyke in a circle where roles are very male/female, again, i had no role dysphoria..i was always the guy, and seen as such where it mattered to me (in SF it is possible to never have to interact with the 'straight' world interpersonally.) so the fact that i finally altered my body to fit my vision did not necessarily change the way i was seen or saw myself. i've always wanted a flat chest, dick, and 'male' body...but my steps have been about my body, not what one would call that body.

[ftmichael]

Maybe it does come from some brain/body incongruence. I didn't say that it doesn't.

Plus, if there were no gender, who's to say that I would have had brain/body incongruence? It's interesting to argue about it, but the fact is that it's pretty much moot because we don't live in a genderless world and are not socialised without gender. Thus, body dysphoria may arise and there's no way of knowing whether it's really about social stuff or inherent biology. (As much as I love to talk in circles with people about gender theory, the fact is that I really don't care about the cause of my being Trans - I simply am, and I'm fine with that.)

[ftmichael]

you altered your body not to have a fucking period--and were pretty open about that fact.

[dannyboi]

Even if that were the case, what's wrong with that? Why is that a less valid choice to make about body mod?

[ftmichael]

Um ... yes, and that was for me. You seem to have missed the point.

I won't be responding to you further, though, as you don't even have the courage to give your name or contact information.