part onenicole_anellSeptember 11 2011, 17:42:33 UTC
The Doctor was utterly creepy in this episode. SEE, THIS IS MY "IS THIS WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE A TEN FAN?" REACTION. Oh my god. I hate him so much right now. I did not know I could hate Eleven to this degree. FEELINGS. Logically I understand why he saw it as a necessary evil, that his priority was to save young!Amy so she'd never have to go through all that, *I get it*, but the episode really did set you up to sympathize with the older Amy who is a person and Amy and he lied to her and let her die. FUCKITY FUCK. Also? It's disturbing on so many levels that he put Rory in the position he did. I mean, I'm so creeped out in a meta way that he kept trying to make it a "you have to choose the fate of your wife" thing, which made me want to punch the TV. And I'm so angry in a non-meta character way that he was trying to push this horrific ~choice~ onto him and make him culpable in it, and *bless Rory's heart* for crying and calling him on it and needing the sacrificed Amy to tell him it's okay not to open the door.
I get what you mean about the narrative cop-out of older Amy's 180, but (a) yes it's the only way for me to not hate Rory and the show in general now, (b) Rory would hate HIMSELF so much more for not opening it, and I think she knew that and was realizing the Doctor had screwed her over but he was 'right' that they couldn't both be saved. And again (unfortunate implications aside) she was making the choice for his sake. Like, not (just?) because he belonged with hot Amy in her 20s and all that grossness, but because what he pretty much *had* to do at that point was not open the door, and it was agonizing him, and she could've tried to use that emotionally and keep begging but she didn't want to do that to him.
And again, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THESE FEELINGS. In a way I kind of admire the balls of it, because I *knew* that the older Amy would never make it out of this episode alive, even though there was that moment they teased that she might go off and have her own adventures or something... I knew she was almost definitely a goner and many of the unfortunate implications that she's worth less than prettier, more innocent Amy would be there no matter what. So I kept waiting for the cop-out moment where, oops, she'd give her life in the battle (like maybe the Doctor was hoping she would, gaaah) and it's almost to the show's credit that it was so much darker and less of a cop-out than that. But all the implications you mentioned are definitely there, even if there are also legit in-character reasons that weren't as Wrong. And meanwhile on a less rational level, I'M FURIOUS AT THE SHOW FOR MAKING ME UPSET AND NOT GIVING ME HAPPY FUN-TIMES.
SEE, THIS IS MY "IS THIS WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE A TEN FAN?" REACTION. Oh my god. I hate him so much right now. I did not know I could hate Eleven to this degree. FEELINGS. Logically I understand why he saw it as a necessary evil, that his priority was to save young!Amy so she'd never have to go through all that, *I get it*, but the episode really did set you up to sympathize with the older Amy who is a person and Amy and he lied to her and let her die. FUCKITY FUCK. Also? It's disturbing on so many levels that he put Rory in the position he did. I mean, I'm so creeped out in a meta way that he kept trying to make it a "you have to choose the fate of your wife" thing, which made me want to punch the TV. And I'm so angry in a non-meta character way that he was trying to push this horrific ~choice~ onto him and make him culpable in it, and *bless Rory's heart* for crying and calling him on it and needing the sacrificed Amy to tell him it's okay not to open the door.
I get what you mean about the narrative cop-out of older Amy's 180, but (a) yes it's the only way for me to not hate Rory and the show in general now, (b) Rory would hate HIMSELF so much more for not opening it, and I think she knew that and was realizing the Doctor had screwed her over but he was 'right' that they couldn't both be saved. And again (unfortunate implications aside) she was making the choice for his sake. Like, not (just?) because he belonged with hot Amy in her 20s and all that grossness, but because what he pretty much *had* to do at that point was not open the door, and it was agonizing him, and she could've tried to use that emotionally and keep begging but she didn't want to do that to him.
And again, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THESE FEELINGS. In a way I kind of admire the balls of it, because I *knew* that the older Amy would never make it out of this episode alive, even though there was that moment they teased that she might go off and have her own adventures or something... I knew she was almost definitely a goner and many of the unfortunate implications that she's worth less than prettier, more innocent Amy would be there no matter what. So I kept waiting for the cop-out moment where, oops, she'd give her life in the battle (like maybe the Doctor was hoping she would, gaaah) and it's almost to the show's credit that it was so much darker and less of a cop-out than that. But all the implications you mentioned are definitely there, even if there are also legit in-character reasons that weren't as Wrong. And meanwhile on a less rational level, I'M FURIOUS AT THE SHOW FOR MAKING ME UPSET AND NOT GIVING ME HAPPY FUN-TIMES.
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