who may have caused death but never murdered anyone (Jack, Hugo)
Now that you mention this it makes me think of something that's bothered me about goody goody Jack for some time. He would have killed Locke at one point...but when he pulled the trigger, the gun was empty. The intent was there (unless I'm misreading that scene) so IMO he's no better than the others.
Oh I don't think that Jack is better but that's how Kate sees him, and still, he hasn't committed murder no matter the intent; he didn't intentionally take a life.
I guess, that the show clearly stated that anybody, even the best ones, may in certain circumstances become killer though (even Jack could have...).
In the flashback verse, Kate and James were the only murderers I think (Sayid was only a torturer), the others may have caused death but they didn't murder (unless Jin did?), but in the island verse (or in the flashforwards) they almost all became killers. Even Locke killed the girl sent by Widmore (don't remember her name). Sun killed the blonde girl on Desmond's boat.
Read only a part of what you wrote but I think what I wrote after the first episode this season applies, it was: Soren Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling (it was the French translation, Crainte et Tremblement in the cave), which presents a provocative interpretation of the Binding of Isaac by Abraham story as told in Genesis Chapter 22, and uses the story as an occasion to discuss fundamental issues in moral philosophy and the philosophy of religion, such as the nature of God and faith, faith's relationship with ethics and morality, and the difficulty of being authentically religious. Several story lines are explored in which Abraham killed Isaac
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It is interesting that Sayid joined Faux!Locke as a 'knight of faith' - faith in the absurd proposition that Faux!Locke could reunite him with his wife. I still have hope for Sayid. Even if he killed Dogen. What Dogen did might have been a way of forcing Sayid to work in a specific way, but that his faith might yet bring him to do what must be done for the Island.
Moreover, I am sure now that it is not just one person that is important but all of them, and how they work together. We saw that with the bomb.... I think we will see it again in the furture. The 815 Losties must reunite to fight for the Island.
Not sure that Sayid joined Not!Locke because he had faith, but as I said in my post, I think that the two groups we see are misleading us. We could say that Claire has been acting out of faith too for instance, faith in family, faith in her father and being reunited with her son.
Not!Locke and Jacob are quite the same in the way they manipulate people and in the faith that they are both right.
I thought this was the weakest episode of the season so far. I found most of the sideways!verse storyline boring (and I usually love Sayid-centric episodes), but enjoyed elements of the island plotline. But as usual this show throws up more questions than answers, and I'm just enjoying the ride wherever it decides to take me.
ETA: Where is my Desmond, damnit?! I miss him.
I miss Desmond, too! In fact, I miss him so much I rewatched all the main Desmond-centric episodes of the series last week. He's had some great episodes! But The Constant still remains my favourite Lost episode of all time.
I hope we get to see more of him before the series ends.
Desmond was a wonderful addition to the show. He is definitely my favourite character along with Locke.
"The Constant" is a pure gem, writing-wise and so romantic. The ending scene between Penny and Desmond on the phone is perfect and sounds like an opera, as if there were singing together.
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Now that you mention this it makes me think of something that's bothered me about goody goody Jack for some time. He would have killed Locke at one point...but when he pulled the trigger, the gun was empty. The intent was there (unless I'm misreading that scene) so IMO he's no better than the others.
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I guess, that the show clearly stated that anybody, even the best ones, may in certain circumstances become killer though (even Jack could have...).
In the flashback verse, Kate and James were the only murderers I think (Sayid was only a torturer), the others may have caused death but they didn't murder (unless Jin did?), but in the island verse (or in the flashforwards) they almost all became killers. Even Locke killed the girl sent by Widmore (don't remember her name). Sun killed the blonde girl on Desmond's boat.
I don't remember Hugo murdering anyone. Do you?
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Soren Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling (it was the French translation, Crainte et Tremblement in the cave), which presents a provocative interpretation of the Binding of Isaac by Abraham story as told in Genesis Chapter 22, and uses the story as an occasion to discuss fundamental issues in moral philosophy and the philosophy of religion, such as the nature of God and faith, faith's relationship with ethics and morality, and the difficulty of being authentically religious. Several story lines are explored in which Abraham killed Isaac ( ... )
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Have you watched the episode now?
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It is interesting that Sayid joined Faux!Locke as a 'knight of faith' - faith in the absurd proposition that Faux!Locke could reunite him with his wife. I still have hope for Sayid. Even if he killed Dogen. What Dogen did might have been a way of forcing Sayid to work in a specific way, but that his faith might yet bring him to do what must be done for the Island.
Moreover, I am sure now that it is not just one person that is important but all of them, and how they work together. We saw that with the bomb.... I think we will see it again in the furture. The 815 Losties must reunite to fight for the Island.
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Not!Locke and Jacob are quite the same in the way they manipulate people and in the faith that they are both right.
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ETA: Where is my Desmond, damnit?! I miss him.
I miss Desmond, too! In fact, I miss him so much I rewatched all the main Desmond-centric episodes of the series last week. He's had some great episodes! But The Constant still remains my favourite Lost episode of all time.
I hope we get to see more of him before the series ends.
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"The Constant" is a pure gem, writing-wise and so romantic. The ending scene between Penny and Desmond on the phone is perfect and sounds like an opera, as if there were singing together.
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