I haven't watched VM yet, and after reading some of the interviews I don't know if I want to start, but I get why people are upset. Sometimes it doesn't matter how good something is as a whole - a crappy ending can really ruin everything that preceded it. I've had that happen a number of times. Like I said, never watched the show but I've read about it and from what I read I don't know if I would have been a big LoVe fan. It sounds like one of those toxic relationships that CW-Esque writers love to show as being epic true love that I just never get into. I didn't think I'd be upset to hear they killed him off, but like I said, it's the interviews Thomas has given that anger me.
First of all, I hate writers who perpetuate this idea that a happy couple equals a boring couple. I love that more shows lately (more comedies I think) are saying screw that and aren't pushing the will they/won't they crap to the end and are getting couples together and are writing them like grown-ups (with issues and drama) without feeling like they need to be broken up to have a good story. It also seems to basically be a male version of fridging where he completely discounted one character's value because he decided to kill the other character was the only way to write an interesting story for the other one. Reading about this season, it seems like there was an organic way to just break them up without resorting to this.
It makes me very nervous since his other show I do watch iZombie is ending soon and makes me worried what crap he's going to pull there and it, honestly, makes me wary of investing in a show he writes if he has the mindset that a character can't grow and evolve and has to stay an "underdog" and miserable to be interesting. It just seems like writers nowadays feel like the only way to do any interesting drama is to go for shock value and to kill characters willy-nilly and it does get seriously aggravating.
I do think he realized what the backlash would be which is why he kept saying he decided to take a gamble and isn't sure if it was a good bet or not. And, also why he's hiding away and not dealing with the backlash on SM.
Oh absolutely I get why fans are so devastated, I was also sad that it ended in that way for Veronica and Logan after they had some really lovely scenes together before that, and I do agree with fans protesting that the death was pretty much brushed over and not really dealt with correctly. Still some of the reactions I’m coming across are crossing a line imo. It is unfortunate that Rob and Kristen decided to take a hiatus, because it means that other actors are having to deal with a lot of crap when the decision was nothing to do with them. Francis who plays Weevil for example was getting frustrated at fans throwing boycott etc comments into his twitter when he was just wanting to discuss a season of tv that he was really excited and proud of, some fans are being quite disrespectful right now, and I wish they would at least wait to aim it at the right people
And it’s the interviews that bother me me more than anything else as well, I was very happy with the fourth season, but then reading about where they plan to take VM in future seasons left me a bit iffier. It does sound like Rob really doesn’t get what fans love about VM. He’s basically saying that it was always part soap opera and part noir, and now he wants to go full on noir, but having a season be fully focused on just the mystery would be missing a part of the show that I actually do really value and enjoy. And it’s puzzling too when season 4 was actually full of nostalgic touches, and he really seemed to get what the fans were looking to see. Maybe he doesn’t need to feature quite so many former characters in the next season of the show, but I don’t want to be cut off from all of them either
First of all, I hate writers who perpetuate this idea that a happy couple equals a boring couple. I love that more shows lately (more comedies I think) are saying screw that and aren't pushing the will they/won't they crap to the end and are getting couples together and are writing them like grown-ups (with issues and drama) without feeling like they need to be broken up to have a good story. It also seems to basically be a male version of fridging where he completely discounted one character's value because he decided to kill the other character was the only way to write an interesting story for the other one. Reading about this season, it seems like there was an organic way to just break them up without resorting to this.
It makes me very nervous since his other show I do watch iZombie is ending soon and makes me worried what crap he's going to pull there and it, honestly, makes me wary of investing in a show he writes if he has the mindset that a character can't grow and evolve and has to stay an "underdog" and miserable to be interesting. It just seems like writers nowadays feel like the only way to do any interesting drama is to go for shock value and to kill characters willy-nilly and it does get seriously aggravating.
I do think he realized what the backlash would be which is why he kept saying he decided to take a gamble and isn't sure if it was a good bet or not. And, also why he's hiding away and not dealing with the backlash on SM.
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And it’s the interviews that bother me me more than anything else as well, I was very happy with the fourth season, but then reading about where they plan to take VM in future seasons left me a bit iffier. It does sound like Rob really doesn’t get what fans love about VM. He’s basically saying that it was always part soap opera and part noir, and now he wants to go full on noir, but having a season be fully focused on just the mystery would be missing a part of the show that I actually do really value and enjoy. And it’s puzzling too when season 4 was actually full of nostalgic touches, and he really seemed to get what the fans were looking to see. Maybe he doesn’t need to feature quite so many former characters in the next season of the show, but I don’t want to be cut off from all of them either
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