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JUST SAY ANYTHING, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT

Jun 27, 2015 05:27

Part of the intellectually despicable nature of the campaign for "gay marriage" is its mere looseness. They make statements that a child would find absurd, and expect them to mean something. That is, of course, the inevitable and immediate result of the underlying doctrine - stated by the US Supreme Court in the notorious Texas vs.Griswold sentence ( Read more... )

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ravenclaw_eric June 27 2015, 22:15:49 UTC

Not being at all Christian, my objection to the whole thing is largely the way it's been imposed from above, and the tactics of its supporters. Whenever they're opposed, they resort instantly to the argumentum ad hominem or the argumentum ad verecundiam, and neither of those tactics appeal to me. Also, I have issues with using the courts to do end-runs around the legislatures. It was probably necessary to get rid of Jim Crow, but the tactic has become a monster. It is also profoundly undemocratic, and sooner or later, I think people are going to get good and sick and tired of it ( ... )

captainpeabody June 30 2015, 02:31:07 UTC

FWIW, an explanation I've seen often from Catholic sources about the "except for sexual immorality" clause is that it is intended, not to provide a basis for divorce in regards to valid marriages, but to clarify the difference between valid marriages and other forms of sexual conduct in regards to indissolubility. That is to say, since the words Our Lord uses here are fairly broad in the Greek (literally "anyone who looses his woman"), the clause is intended to clarify that this absolute inseparability does not apply to relationships brought about through fornication or any other improper sexual conduct ("porneia" being a very, very broad term in the Greek), but only to true marriage. That is to say, the purpose of the clause is to make clear that, even though, as Paul says, mere sexual relations is enough to create a union of a sort ("anyone who has relations with a harlot is one flesh with her"), this sort of union can be dissolved--even though marriage cannot. I can say that this reading is certainly plausible in the Greek, and ( ... )