Gaslighting

Aug 20, 2014 02:05

Sometimes, the issues of the day are SO far screwed that it's impossible to even start with the problems. Every sentence that is publicized has problems that are so numerous and intrinsic that by the time you've unpacked, analyzed, and disposed of the issues in just that one sentence, you've lost the thread of the overall point and problem ( Read more... )

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ford_prefect42 August 21 2014, 14:02:04 UTC
A lot of people have had unpleasant law enforcement experiences. I am not trying to claim differently. My issue is with the *presumption* that, when force is used, the police are guilty of malfeasance. Every time there's an "unarmed youth shot and killed", judgement is cast long before the story is told. That's *not* okay. And the narrative never goes away, even when it's exposed ( ... )

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ford_prefect42 August 21 2014, 17:22:11 UTC
The results of the civil suit really mean very little, those are more or less arbitrary.

As for the DNA from the weapon and holster and the private detectives findings, it really makes little difference whether bell actually had the gun, or the officer merely believed, in the confusion of the struggle, based on a pull at his holster that bell had the gun. It's still a "good shoot". Under the law, it doesn't matter whether you actually are in danger for your life, it matters that you have reason to believe that you are. The officer whose gun bell may have grabbed did, and therefore the officer that pulled the trigger did too. The only malfeasance was on the part of the deceased.

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ford_prefect42 August 22 2014, 00:28:58 UTC
Yeah, there's really no way to have effective review that *doens't* suffer from basic conflicts of interest in these cases. Any reviewing body will have to have policing powers, which means they'll be "police", and they'll have to understand police protocols, which means it'll be packed with cops. That particular problem may be insolvable.

I do agree that the lapel cameras are a good idea that does seem to work, although I would submit that it solves the problem 2 ways. 1) it lets the officer know they're on film, and 2) it lets the suspect know they're on film. It's nice when technology offers solutions to age-old problems :)

As for the second shooting... I am not going to be taking the effort to look into that now.

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