Can anyone help?

[violon]

I have lurked here for a little while, and I wish my first post would've been something porn-worthy. But no, it's a request for smut

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[sdragon]

Is there more tolerance for polyunsaturated or monounsaturated fats

[bambi_cilane]

yes.. the high fibre intake is a good idea.. i think it has been showed that high fibre helps transport some of the fat out of the body without it getting taken up from the intestines.. ????

[sdragon]

*nods* That sounds right; thanks for the confirmation. :)

[bambi_cilane]

but just now i read that the food passes through the gall before it comes to the intestines.. so maybe this doesn't prevent gall probs.. only helps not get it in the bloodstream or weight gain?? guess you should check with the doc..??

[violon]

I'm a nutrition major, so you might think it's weird that I'm coming here for advice. Everything I have learned is just so clinical, mathematical, and not always the most creative or tasty.

The gallbladder stores bile, which is produced by the liver. It stores the bile so that it can be released after a meal - it breaks down fat. I have gallstones that obstruct the duct that the bile goes through to leave the gallbladder, which apparently causes pain (I don't know why that is). I think that the bile is released as the food enters the small intestine from the stomach. Yeah, that sounds right. So I guess the fiber deal won't lessen the blow.

[bambi_cilane]

i checked some sites.. and it says the cholesterol matters... and since fibre hinders cholesteroles effects it is some good even for the gall and that omega 3 fat is also good (in very small amounts of course... but yes low fat diet is the big thing.. but the turmeric thing seems to be right though!

[bambi_cilane]

i dunno what this cure is worth.. ??

http://www.kitchendoctor.com/healthconditions/gallstones/gallbladder.html

[foomf]

It's probably dangerous. I'd love to see it given a clinical trial, because if it does let you pass the actual cholesterol gallstones (instead of causing some odd chemical reaction that makes the olive oil and lemon juice turn into little solid spheres) then it would save a lot of people a lot of money.

Also, as soon as she gets into the 'energetically' stuff she goes off into magic. Modern medicine replaced the Four Humours because modern medicine works and alchemistic magic (however useful it might be as a philosophy) does not really do a good job of treating illness.

[bambi_cilane]

hehe.. i did not read it too carefully.. but yes i agree this method sounds a bit doubtful..

but the turmeric and ginger and black pepper thing i think is both an old medicinal/ayurvedic thing, AS WELL AS a pharmaceutically researched tip? i think.. i don't swear

[foomf]

Ginger is extremely effective as an anti-nausea treatment. The guys on Mythbusters did their tiny three-person sample test and the ginger pills actually stopped the nausea for all three of them - the total feeb who gets seasick when turning around suddenly, the psychosomatic guy, and the girl who could only be made seasick by the Nasa "puke machine".

Hm? That's the astronaut trainer that lets them spin you in three axes at once. Most people can handle two axes, but add the third and WHAM, there goes the gastric reflex.

[bambi_cilane]

really, had no idea, that might be worth trying for carsickness then;)

but i meant as a help with gall problems, and i read that there is a thing called curcumin in turmeric that is a help with gall problems.. and that at least black pepper contains a substance that helps the body to ues the curcumin thingie..:P

so that is why i recommended it here;)

[violon]

I asked my father (who's a nurse) what he thought about passing gallstones. He seemed to think that it was not very likely that gallstones could pass through the common bile duct (the exit from the gallbladder) since they're a lot bigger than kidney stones, generally. And if one were to get STUCK in there.. I don't even want to think about what problems that would cause. Still, I found some pretty interesting pictures on GIS of success stories. Check it out.

[foomf]

I still want them to show that those are actual gallstones. That's why I'd like to see a clinical trial. I've seen my share of Phillipino psychic surgeons, I know how easy it is to create a realistic looking fraud.

[elizagoth]

My parents are RNs as well. My mother has done the gallbladder cleanse and recommended it to many others. Hers involved 3 days of natural apple juice and apples, followed by olive oil and fresh lemon juice, and a night of sleep on the right side. The stones pass in the morning. The apple juice over the 3 days is said to soften the stones.

IMO, it's worth a shot to avoid an extremely painful surgery and recovery time.

Best of luck.

[violon]

Thank you for the fish ideas! I love fish. What is tsuyu/memmi?

I have problems with fat, period. My gallbladder does not discriminate. I wish it did.

[sdragon]

It's a Japanese liquid that's similar to soy sauce, but it has some fish extract (and sometimes a little cooking sake) in it for extra flavor. You can find it at Asian stores near the soy sauce. Traditionally, it's diluted before being served (with some chopped scallions and a dab of wasabi mixed in), but I like it a little more concentrated.