Historical-political ask mainly adressed to my American LJ friends

Feb 06, 2008 09:12

... but to any other ones, of course! This is not a closed survey (I am not American and I have my own opinions about it as well he he he ;P)

Who has been for you the most important figure in the history in the US politics and why?

*He or she hasn't to be a president necessarily but he or she must have been clearly important for the history of the ( Read more... )

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phunkforfree February 7 2008, 05:07:56 UTC
I'm a little ashamed, because I really don't know much about US history (I learned the most I had ever known when I helped my parents study for their citizenship exams!), but I'm going to say Thomas Paine, because he was pretty much the first guy to talk to the average person on a level that they could understand. And in doing so, he convinced people (not just prominent figures--average people, as I've said) to do something about their situation. And without all those people on board for the "American" cause, I'm not sure how well the American Revolution would have turned out. And I've always been a fan of unpretentious people who try to reach out to the "little guy".

But then, Benjamin Franklin would have been my other choice, because of how he was so deeply involved with the American Revolution and was just all over the place, in several senses of the word: he was showing up in a good number of the colonies, he was overseas convincing leaders to get behind the American cause, and he was also all over the place in terms of the arts and sciences. Where would we be without Poor Richard's Almanack? And, oh yeah, electricity! He was a Jack of All Trades, and Master of Many! Woo! Go Ben!

Or Abraham Lincoln. He dealt with a country divided, and he freed the slaves, which was, obviously, a huge deal. Before that action, the whole "all men are created equal go USA we're the best" thing was pretty much a sham.

I dunno. A lot of people were important for us here, I guess!

So, who are your choices?

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florencisalesas February 7 2008, 07:29:27 UTC
You can't imagine how happy I am to see you here again! :)

Your description about your choices is very nice and I feel very inspired for your words. I share a lot your opinion about all those people who weren't necessarily on the waterfront but who helped a lot to make a lot of good things for your country such that old black woman - you talk about shame, what about me, without remember this name now? - who protested because she thought she had the right to have a seat in a bus (she died it has about a year or so, poor thing) and all those citizens who, in one moment or another, they decided to take a position to defend an injustice and, thank to this action, helped a lot to improve the liberty and the civil rights in your country.

Abraham Lincoln is a very logical choice as well, of course. It moved me the moment when you say "I learned the most I had ever known when I helped my parents study for their citizenship exams", because I imagine the situation and... well, it tells a lot about how nice you are :)

It is curious you and sfwriter choice my favourite one (Benjamin Franklin!) who, for my secret purposes, doesn't work for me because what I want to do it is done already (I know, I know, it is very ugly don't tell nothing about my secret intentions, but all you I hope you will see them in the future he he he).

If I had to be a bit more dare and feel obliged to the compromise to choice just a president and a bit more recent I think I would choice Franklin Delano Roosevelt because he had to face a very complicated time... but which president hadn't to face compromised situation?

My least favourite ones are senator McCarthy and Mister Hays and his bloody puritan code. Both means to me some of the dangers any country has to fight against.

Thank you very much Gio. I hope all is well at home :)

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phunkforfree February 10 2008, 06:01:46 UTC
I also like FDR. I'm sure he wasn't perfect, but to lead a country during sudden poverty, and actually restoring it (over four presidential terms, of course) is pretty impressive. And the "Fireside Chats"--again, talking to the regular people.

But his wife was pretty cool, too.

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phunkforfree February 10 2008, 06:03:21 UTC
Also, the woman on the bus was Rosa Parks. According to her, though, if I remember correctly, she didn't get up from her seat because she was "just tired". I don't think she meant for it to have such a huge impact, but, either way, it sure did!

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florencisalesas February 10 2008, 10:22:11 UTC
Rosa Parks, of course!
And well, what you comment it's true: we live our lives in the most absolute anonymity and mediocrity but, at least once in our life, we make an spectacular heroic action which nobody has any echo of its existence (sometimes to ourselves even). Only when that "little heroic action" has the luck - or the bad one - to have a mic, a camera or whatever which could spread its existence in the mass media and become something out of control for the anonymous person who did it.
This is a very interesting thing to think about :)

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