...means what you think it means

Aug 07, 2002 17:58

When I was a baby slasher, I was taught that an OTP, one true pairing, was the one pairing a person would consider in a fandom (like M/K fans saying M/Sk fans were deluded or vice versa, sigh), or at all (Jim/Blair and that's it, no one else looks even remotely slashy). At least, that's how I interpreted what I was told. These days I see OTP used ( Read more... )

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musesfool August 7 2002, 09:15:12 UTC
Inconsistency is a pretty good word, too.

Heh.

"Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." ~Emerson

That's always my response to peopel who call me on my dualities.

*g*

Personally, "smarm" and "schmoop" and even "mook" (which means something completely different to *me*, being a fan of police procedurals and hardboiled detective novels) bother me more than "fic" or "ficlet" or even, as I've seen someone else complain, "fics," though I draw the line at "ficcie" and "piccie" myself, maybe because I abhor being called "Viccie" or "Vicki" *g*.

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catscradle August 7 2002, 10:54:58 UTC
"Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." ~Emerson

Just nitpicking, since it's the subject today ;) It's actually "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." Not all consistency is bad - just when we can no longer thing outside of the norm.

Stephanie

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musesfool August 8 2002, 06:26:43 UTC
I stand (or sit, actually) corrected. *g*

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ladyvyola August 7 2002, 11:01:09 UTC
"Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." ~Emerson

"But it helps you keep your stories straight." ~Vyola

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flambeau August 8 2002, 01:51:57 UTC
I have a sneaking fondness for schmoop. It reminds me of my days in XF slash fandom, and all kinds of silliness.

Do you think you could explain mook to me? Is it the comics-fandom equivalent of schmoop?

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musesfool August 8 2002, 06:28:23 UTC
I have a sneaking fondness for schmoop

I don't mind the genre itself so much, but the word is a little silly.

Do you think you could explain mook to me? Is it the comics-fandom equivalent of schmoop?

I think so. Being more movie than comics-based, I haven't read a lot of the fic with that label, but I believe there's a whole universe out there called "the mooks" and concerns Remy/Bobby fic that would most likely be classified as "schmoop".

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linbot August 8 2002, 06:49:54 UTC
Do you think you could explain mook to me?

In my experience, a mook (to rhyme with "spook") is a henchman, a foot soldier, someone with no powers.

It's the word for an ordinary person, and it's usually used in situations where there are heros who do have supernatural abilities. I've seen it used in roleplaying situations mainly, but I get the feeling it's a piece of movie slang, but from what kind of movie, I'm not sure.

Linda.

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musesfool August 8 2002, 07:39:43 UTC
In detective fiction or police shows, a mook, or a moke, is a dumb guy who gets caught for whatever crime is being investigated.

Synonyms include "yo" "skell" and the ever popular "perp".

However, in certain slash fandoms, it's a synonym for "schmoop" or "smarm", which confused the hell out of me at first.

ah... a link: http://thundercrack.hispeed.com/mooksville.htm

What is a mook?

The short definition: A mook is a sap. Maybe not always, maybe not to everyone, but at least in some situation or to some person, this individual is uncommonly sweet. Though perhaps s/he might not want to acknowledge that. ;-)

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flambeau August 8 2002, 07:45:53 UTC
So this is kinda like smarm, then--a word that doesn't mean the same thing in fandom (or in parts of fandom) as it does elsewhere. Wonder how that happened. Has anyone written the "I did this!" mook essay? :-)

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musesfool August 13 2002, 11:25:17 UTC
There was a big spreadout of slash in the X-Men comics fandom a few years back, basically turning slash from a rather small and isolated genre in that fandom into something much more common (I have about zero experience in slash communities, but I always thought what happened in the X-Men is rare - there's a lot less slash than there had been during that time, but it seems completely a part of the 'general' fandom - everybody knows a slasher or ten; everybody might turn out to be a slasher at some point.)

Anyway, the writer who basically started all of that (and, I think, affected the nature and inclusiveness of slash in the fandom in a major way), Kaylee, came up with the word mook and the explanation. It spread with the slash itself. I'm not sure anyone knows where it comes from.

(This is just my take on all of this, of course...)

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