Oh look, warnings debate. It makes my head hurt, and I thought I had nothing more to say, but it's summer, and summer means reruns, and also, I do have something to say, which is
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Aw, just when I thought nobody could say anything about the eternally recurring warnings... thing... you go and be all sneaky and indirect and reasonable, and I admore you beyond reason. mwah.
*mwah* to you, too! I try to preach what I practice... I suppose there could also be a post about "make sure your warnings mean what you think they mean," but it's way too hot for that. ;)
it could be because there's nothing in the story that you would need to be warned for. Or it could be because there's nothing in the story that the writer thinks you need to be warned for, which isn't the same thing. Or it could be because the writer doesn't believe in warnings.
*blink* I said this in my epiphany post yesterday. So perhaps it was only an epiphany to me. *g*
Oh, go you! I started reading that metafandom post and then I felt a nervous breakdown approaching and had to stop. *g* I think it's a grand epiphany. I wish everyone would have it. Also, if I'd read all the way through the links I could just have told people to go read your lj... oh well. ;)
The first thing I did after reading this comment was to go look at that story to see if there were any cats in it. *g*
Bad writing does warn for itself pretty fast. That is Useful. Like you, I have some fairly idiosyncratic things that bother me, and ordinary warnings don't cover them anyway, or rather, cover them in the way that a collapsed circus tent covers a peanut. I find it more useful to rely on the back button, or in the case of some very good writers who are very good at writing things that bother me, to get someone else to read the story first.
by the time it was done I had a violent hatred of the thing
There should be some kind of twelvesteppiness for those of us who can't stop reading because we have to see how it ends. ;)
*goes to check now that I'm home* Ah, remembered badly -- it was Winterlong, and it wasn't actually the phrasing, it was the last panel of the illustration that made me meep and read the story very very suspiciously to make sure the cat was okay. ;)
And yes, yes there should be. Arghsuchabadstory. It's somehow worse when someone who's otherwise mostly readable does something so awful; bad fic that's uniformly bad I just don't care about at all.
Oh, that cat! I started to think that maybe I didn't remember that I'd actually had some small animal trip Wing's perimeter alarms or something. You never know. *g*
I vote for Why women slash *and* feedback as gift or thank you note...TOGETHER!!! :-)
I'll close metabib and just link to you :D (very nice and succint post, btw! i understand both sides but really cannot bring myself to cxare for myself too much one way or the other...)
Only recently. :-) Truth be told I've been an absolute bear for a couple months now. I lost complete control of all the numerous (and at times somewhat successful) attempts to rein in my hyperbusy schedule and things have been so beserk and spending my time SO TERRIBLY (at least it feels that way because I never have enough of it) that I've been ready to check myself into a monastery. Where no one can talk. And WITH NO INTERNET CONNECTION.
But then Pirates came out and I reestablished new efforts to gain control of my life. Jack Sparrow is good for my soul. :-)
So NOW I'm spending a good majority of my time very well, in revisiting my guru and getting repeated doses of soul-fortifying reminders that it is completely up to me how I spend each and every day.
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But hey, if you start a thread on MarySue-ism, I'm SO there. ;-D
I feel like creating a whole set of different index pages, with different levels of detail about the stories.
1. A detailed summary of each story, covering all major plot points, emotional tone, and describing the ending. 2. One line descriptions of the story, plus pairings and some warnings. 3. Titles and pairings only. (Although sometiems I start listing pairings and in the end I think about just putting 'yes'.) 4. Titles only. 5. Just a list of numbers, each one leading to a different story. 6. A single button which delivers a story completely at random.
Your idea of different levels of information reminds me somehow of when I had the idea that I was going to put plain brown paper covers on all my books.
sometiems I start listing pairings and in the end I think about just putting 'yes'
Hee!
I'm kind of wishing the GSF concept could be spread to different fandoms. SG fandoms could use more TSF - team slut fic.
reminds me somehow of when I had the idea that I was going to put plain brown paper covers on all my books.
Great until the day that you want to look something up...
I'm kind of wishing the GSF concept could be spread to different fandoms.
You know, I'd never noticed that it wasn't a general thing, but you're right. Hmm. Of course, with popslash there's the advantage that all five (or ten) are cute as puppies, and so it's only natural to want everyone to share the fun.
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I'm going now.
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*blink* I said this in my epiphany post yesterday. So perhaps it was only an epiphany to me. *g*
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Bad writing does warn for itself pretty fast. That is Useful. Like you, I have some fairly idiosyncratic things that bother me, and ordinary warnings don't cover them anyway, or rather, cover them in the way that a collapsed circus tent covers a peanut. I find it more useful to rely on the back button, or in the case of some very good writers who are very good at writing things that bother me, to get someone else to read the story first.
by the time it was done I had a violent hatred of the thing
There should be some kind of twelvesteppiness for those of us who can't stop reading because we have to see how it ends. ;)
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And yes, yes there should be. Arghsuchabadstory. It's somehow worse when someone who's otherwise mostly readable does something so awful; bad fic that's uniformly bad I just don't care about at all.
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warning debate *and* concrit?!
but but but... it's summer MOVIE season... ;-D
Warnings make me laugh.
Oh dear, I've been spending too much time with James.
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You seem to spend your time much better. :)
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I'll close metabib and just link to you :D (very nice and succint post, btw! i understand both sides but really cannot bring myself to cxare for myself too much one way or the other...)
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Wheeee! LOL!
You seem to spend your time much better. :)
Only recently. :-) Truth be told I've been an absolute bear for a couple months now. I lost complete control of all the numerous (and at times somewhat successful) attempts to rein in my hyperbusy schedule and things have been so beserk and spending my time SO TERRIBLY (at least it feels that way because I never have enough of it) that I've been ready to check myself into a monastery. Where no one can talk. And WITH NO INTERNET CONNECTION.
But then Pirates came out and I reestablished new efforts to gain control of my life. Jack Sparrow is good for my soul. :-)
So NOW I'm spending a good majority of my time very well, in revisiting my guru and getting repeated doses of soul-fortifying reminders that it is completely up to me how I spend each and every day.
giggle...
But hey, if you start a thread on MarySue-ism, I'm SO there. ;-D
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1. A detailed summary of each story, covering all major plot points, emotional tone, and describing the ending.
2. One line descriptions of the story, plus pairings and some warnings.
3. Titles and pairings only. (Although sometiems I start listing pairings and in the end I think about just putting 'yes'.)
4. Titles only.
5. Just a list of numbers, each one leading to a different story.
6. A single button which delivers a story completely at random.
I thought the concrit debate was last week? :-)
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Your idea of different levels of information reminds me somehow of when I had the idea that I was going to put plain brown paper covers on all my books.
sometiems I start listing pairings and in the end I think about just putting 'yes'
Hee!
I'm kind of wishing the GSF concept could be spread to different fandoms. SG fandoms could use more TSF - team slut fic.
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Great until the day that you want to look something up...
I'm kind of wishing the GSF concept could be spread to different fandoms.
You know, I'd never noticed that it wasn't a general thing, but you're right. Hmm. Of course, with popslash there's the advantage that all five (or ten) are cute as puppies, and so it's only natural to want everyone to share the fun.
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