Ewan's penis (and other things)

May 26, 2005 21:07

Things that have entertained me lately, for various reasons, in no particular order: Two Lumps; bridge crossings; the sad decline of epic-writing since the mid-90s; Ewan McGregor; a truly driven artist. Also Le Morte d'Arthur, which I am currently rereading. I'd forgotten just how plain wacky it is, and now, of course, I'm seeing them all as anime ( Read more... )

bodies, characters, actors, meta(ish)

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cathexys May 26 2005, 12:16:01 UTC
it's *all* about bleedover...and i've been actually wondering a lot about the fact that RPS (at least our corner) had a very clear sense of what was real and what wasn't. and i'm now seeing people RPSing in a way that seems more about what they think is *there* than what we know we're projecting.

i just mentioned in my post (but didn't elaborate) an analogy between new criticism and postmodernism...the new critics believed that there was a true meaning that could be deciphered. if you then write them as gay, if you try to check inch length on poor ewan to get to Obi..there's the sense of "authenticity," of truth to it. and that's a bit troubling to me.

whereas putting JC and justin together in Munich was one of a multitude of possible scenarios, none of them closer or farther away from a truth we knew we could never reach...or sth like this :-)

but then i am not very visual and wouldn't know anyone's eyecolor if it had close ups and really could care less :-)

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flambeau May 26 2005, 12:43:14 UTC
Bleedover is really pretty interesting, as a phenomenon. I just dislike it too much to really take a good look at it. *g*

check inch length on poor ewan to get to Obi

Heh. Or really, even check inch length on Ewan to get to Ewan, if you see what I mean.

Authenticity is... a bit of a problem.

And somehow it rolls around to questions of canon in my head now. Like, if I know DH's shoe size, is that canon... and now I'm thinking of the fairly standard practice of making a character's age whatever the actor's age is when no other information is given. Not that there's anything unreasonable about that.

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cathexys May 26 2005, 12:47:07 UTC
yup, i think they're all rolled up in one another...that's why for me the RPS folks are almost less problematic, b/c the divide is somehow clearer? JT's canon age is by default his real age...is McKay 38, however??? One is sth where we operate all thew while *knowing* that we're slashing a persona taken from the person...in the second case, the two conflate without any clear awareness or acknowledgment thereof (and it's not that i don't so it...which is why i'm so aware how i'm doing it muxch more *consciously* in RPS!!!)

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flambeau May 26 2005, 13:31:39 UTC
Yeah, so La Timberlake can have one canon age and any number of fictional penises, whereas sometimes you get the impression that with a certain view of things, McKay would have just the one canon penis... okay, now I'm officially freaking myself out and I'm going to go sit in a corner for a while and not think of the fictional penises of Justin Timberlake.

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cathexys May 26 2005, 13:52:32 UTC
at least with all these phallic examples i don't have to worry about flanigan's or timberlake's (existant or non existant ) butts...though that beach shot from family portraits... :D [which, if i read that correctly, was taken out...so what does it mean to take a cut scene from another film to prove than JF has a nice ass after all??? :-)

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flambeau May 27 2005, 11:14:39 UTC
Beach shot? Family portraits? I think I need to be educated. :)

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cathexys May 27 2005, 12:24:40 UTC
or family pictures or album or whatever that steel movie was... here's the scene. [if you can handle JF in a non-sheppard role :-)]

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flambeau May 27 2005, 13:01:53 UTC
Oo, thanks! And actually, that was quite educational in several ways. It's nice to see JF be non-sheppardy. :)

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cathexys May 27 2005, 13:41:53 UTC
glad you enjoyed. it is actually kind of intersting to see the similarities in certain speech tterns or expressions, though i almost feel like they need to be factored out (in the sense of, who's sheppard above and beyond JF ???]

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