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Jan 29, 2017 22:15

I continue to be horrified by Trump. He really is the fascist he has claimed to be. This guy needs to go down. Fast and by any means necessary. He is a threat to the free world ( Read more... )

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beer_good_foamy January 29 2017, 22:44:31 UTC
This Twitter thread by author Cat Valente is sounding creepily correct right now.

I'm also very anxious about the French election.

And the upcoming German one, which Trump is already working to influence. Unless something changes very quickly, I think a lot of Western European nations (and yes, Ms May, that includes the UK) are going to have to realise that it's not a law of nature that the US government is a friendly nation. Trump and Putin both want the EU gone, preferably the entire concept of liberal democracy with it, and we have plenty of populist idiots who are only too happy to help...

And I think it was wrong to try and "understand" or "educate" the people who voted for him and who vote for his ilk in Europe.

Case in point, our tories just invited our local fascists to discuss supporting them to form a majority after next election. Why? Because it would be, and I quote, "IMPOLITE" not to include the fascists. They acknowledge that they're racist, they just don't see why that should be a problem. After all, the only thing that matters is a nominal majority and you can do whateverthefuck you want...

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shapinglight January 29 2017, 23:00:25 UTC
Case in point, our tories just invited our local fascists to discuss supporting them to form a majority after next election. Why? Because it would be, and I quote, "IMPOLITE" not to include the fascists. They acknowledge that they're racist, they just don't see why that should be a problem. After all, the only thing that matters is a nominal majority and you can do whateverthefuck you want...

Is there any point at all in telling them that 'being polite to nazis' is the equivalent of handing them the noose with which to hang you? To paraphrase Milo Yiannopoulos as recently stated in a Channel 4 interview here in the UK, they don't care about your 'feelings.' The only defence against them is to not care about theirs right back at them.

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beer_good_foamy January 29 2017, 23:03:36 UTC
Is there any point at all in telling them that 'being polite to nazis' is the equivalent of handing them the noose with which to hang you?

Nope, according to their party leader, that sort of talk fosters division and hatred, and she won't stand for that.

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flake_sake January 30 2017, 07:48:31 UTC
Cat Valente is very correct there and I really hope that the US democracy is strong enough to get rid of Trump. They might be. In Europe I have way more doubts. I'm an old lefty, so I am in favour of a good social system and a strong state, but that can very quickly turn on us, once the fascists take over.

And the upcoming German one, which Trump is already working to influence.
Yeah, that one too, although I think Merkel and Schulz are both rather strong candidates. And in the end, Germany is postioned extremely good economically, it is much harder for the AfD to conjure up an impeding apocalyse in Germany than it would be in other European countries. But yeah, Putin and Trump are going to do their best to push the AfD.

Why? Because it would be, and I quote, "IMPOLITE" not to include the fascists.

I'm so sick of that. They have to realize that the time to convince the fascists not to be fascist anymore is over. They need to fight them with all they have. Our Socialists plan to do the same thing. Kern wants to pull a Schüssel on Strache not realizing that Europe is not what it used to be and that he is playing with fire.

I feel like the only party I can be sure to exclude the nazis are the Greens (and they are acting so weak and stupid at times, that I'd probably look for another party to vote for, if the situation wasn't so dire).

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beer_good_foamy February 1 2017, 14:28:40 UTC
And now Wikileaks are going after Fillon and promising to publish lots of dirt on him. What. A. Surprise.

I feel like the only party I can be sure to exclude the nazis are the Greens (and they are acting so weak and stupid at times, that I'd probably look for another party to vote for, if the situation wasn't so dire).

Our Greens have proven to be worse than useless. They've basically backed down on every single profile issue, up to and including coal mining. Apart from the communists, there is almost NO ONE protesting the normalisation of racism on a party-wide label (which means that anti-racism gets called a "leftist" issue that everyone else can be Neutral and On The Fence about...)

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flake_sake February 1 2017, 19:03:28 UTC
Wikileaks has turned into Putin's propaganda platform numbero uno. Looks they want to see the world burn. Fuck them. I hope they hand over Assange to Sweden.

And yeah, our greens are not much better. They just fall over themselves to please the others. And yeah, the same here, if you do not condone racism, you are called unrealistic.

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beer_good_foamy February 2 2017, 15:43:20 UTC
Not to harp on about this, but... Over the last week, our tories have downgraded the fascists from "a racist party" to "a party with racist roots" to, as of yesterday, "a party with authoritarian roots". And they've all but announced that they're going to let the fascists handle culture issues - y'know, museums, theatre, books and all that mamby-pamby stuff that conservatives don't give a rat's ass about and the fascists really want to control.

And we're doing it all just out of sheer POLITENESS. The fascists don't even have a very effective demagogue leading them; they just have to stand back and grin while everyone else works hard to normalise racism and the idea that society is basically one step away from anarchy (while being officially horrified by Trump, obviously, because that's totally different).

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flake_sake February 2 2017, 21:35:26 UTC
It's so insane, one of our batshitcrazy conservative ministers just proposed to limit the freedom to demonstrate. He wants that people can sue march organizers for any dammage an individual marcher caused. INSANE!!!

They are all falling over themselves to form a government with the nazis.

FUn fact, he complained that someone used to shit in fron of his house, I call that person an Austrian hero.

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beer_good_foamy February 3 2017, 12:46:04 UTC
OK, the Greens did this right:

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