Ooooooh, Damon, you are one beautiful, beautiful dude.

Aug 20, 2010 23:40

Question. Why is it so damn hard to find OT3 icons of Stefan/Elena/Damon? Heck, just finding good Stefan and Stefan/Elena icons is wicked hard. Clearly the fandom preference is Damon/Elena (but the Damon/Elena comm really seems to hate Stefan, and just... I wouldn't be able to take that, so I didn't join, though I may crack soon if I want to ( Read more... )

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irlandesak August 21 2010, 04:24:37 UTC
I enjoy the heck out of these so I can ITA you.

I saw nothing there but House wanting to get into her pants and being obscene about it, and Cuddy very intelligently refusing his advances, but somewhere along the way Cuddy got giggly over him and House suddenly had deep-seated emotions for her and the shoddy writing just made me want to puke.

This. IMO, House is meant to be alone. Maybe a fling here and there along the way but ultimately, he's not a relationship person from what I can see.

And my problem with this ship is that the show presented Cuddy as the antithesis of Cameron (who I liked) in that she was not ruled by her emotions and would not be drawn the juvenile dysfunction that is Gregory House. Well somewhere along the way Linda Edelstein got it in her head that H/C had some torrid affair way back when they knew one another and that they're meant to be. And then she started pimping it in interviews making me realize that she and I had vastly different impressions of who Cuddy was because if I were playing Cuddy, a relationship with House is the last thing I'd want for her. It'd undermine the character.

And thus it began. For all the slack Cameron got that she was whiny and weak and least that's who she was supposed to be. She got ragged on on about it. But Cuddy, on the other hand, rarely stood up to House in any way that wasn't over by the end of an episode. She was all about *tsk tsking* sexual innuendo while encouraging it. House makes her look as weak as Cameron was supposed to be but the show doesn't acknowledge it. Or at least it didn't when I watched.

So many people I know who love H/C would constantly talk about how House needs someone more age appropriate than Cameron and someone stronger than Cameron who can stand up to his BS. Well that's great. Good point. But no way in hell is that Cuddy as she's portrayed by the show. Cameron, as messed up as she was, I understood her thing for House.

And House, as messed up as he was, I understood him rejecting relationships.

Cuddy? I just do not get. And frankly, I grew to hate her. One thing I hate is when shows "tell" vs. "show." The character of Cuddy is a prime example of that.

Man, can you tell this touches a nerve? H/C would be in my list for least favorite couple.

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firthgal August 21 2010, 05:46:49 UTC
Ahahahaha, this is why I love you. Yes, to all of this. House/Cameron I could completely understand, and even though I saw why it bugged people, at least the ship made sense from a characterization perspective. It was never meant to last, but it was meant to bring about character growth for both of them, which it did. House/Cuddy? I just never understood why Cuddy would want anything to do with him. Sometimes the show would give us some deep moments between them, but more often than not it was shallow development. Just... ugh. And I hear that Cuddy's characterization has only gotten worse as House/Cuddy has become a legit romance. I don't know, I just will never understand it. At all. But kudos to those who enjoy it (and really, the fandom for House/Cuddy is much better at writing them as a ship than the show will ever be).

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irlandesak August 21 2010, 06:18:18 UTC
Sometimes the show would give us some deep moments between them, but more often than not it was shallow development.

This is just it. As friends? I bought them. If Cuddy were truly the strong woman she was supposed to be, House is the kind of guy she could care about in a way and even be somewhat of a "bro" but she'd be too smart to consider him as a romantic prospect.

And even as they were moving them towards being a couple, they kept giving them different goals. Don't even get me started on the soap opera "father my baby" story. Ugh!

I'm afraid of what they're going to have to do to House to have him in a relationship. I shudder. I enjoyed the early years of the show but I'm glad I gave it up.

And the biggest irony in this? The one person who has managed to stand up to House and walk away: Cameron. Masochist in me is wondering what the episodes she allegedly will appear in next season will be like. I don't think she had any scenes with House last spring.

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firthgal August 21 2010, 15:06:33 UTC
And the biggest irony in this? The one person who has managed to stand up to House and walk away: Cameron.

Ha! Yes, I've always found this irony to be quite delicious. And if I'm honest, I've never seen Cameron to be the weak character that a lot of fandom makes her out to be. When she believed in something, she never backed down. When she wanted something, she'd put her whole heart into getting it, but she also finally learned when to give up and walk away. She faced her emotions head-on and did things about it, which, yes, got her into trouble more often than not, but at least she was brave enough to do it, you know? And she often did stand up to House, or at least ask him what he was playing at, and she would easily counter attack (she got to his emotional side and she knew it, and so she often used this to her advantage). They weren't as uneven as people say they were. But with House/Cuddy, it feels like all House does is walk all over her, simply because Cuddy used to be the strong woman. She was supposed to be the mature one that knew better, and just... ugh. As for making House a lovesick puppy, even for just the one ep where I saw it, it was rather disturbing. Like, it maybe sold me on the fact that House did love Cuddy, I just didn't know why, because I felt like the show completely failed on developing them as a romance. They just kind of shoved it in there and said, "Hey, guess what? House and Cuddy have a history, a romantic history that we chose not to mention until just now, AND SO CLEARLY THEY ARE IN AN EPIC LOVE AND CUDDY IS HIS ~SOULMATE~" Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh. Granted, I haven't seen season 6, so perhaps they've cleaned some of that up, but according to most of fandom's reaction, I doubt it.

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