Yeah, Kakashi isn't dead... I'm quite sure of it, but Kishi faking people out this way and then dragging it out is pretty uncool as well. Actually, for me, it's probably worse, because it just makes everything look ridiculous. And it was pointless. Honestly, what's the sense in fucking with your readers that way? I mean, I can sort of get tricking you about motives as he did with Itachi, but fake-deaths are sooooo lame. Lame, lame, lamesauce.
Konan may die, but it's not going to be because of Pain, and I imagine if that happened, he'd go a wee bit crazy.
That seems quite likely. Kishi claims Pein is "emotionless" (obviously very untrue); Konan seems pretty blatantly the key to his humanity. There'd be no point in establishing them as friends since they were children, otherwise.
If he'd just wanted to write about a guy and some hot chick who pined after him, he's shown he feels no compulsion to establish a reason why a girl should actually give a damn about a guy (Karin and Sasuke come to mind here), so Konan and Pein being close since forever ago makes me think this is relevant to their human sides+Pein's eventual breakdown+their deaths.
And I like the close-since-forever-ago thing... it annoys me how half the time, he makes girls have feelings for a guy for NO GOOD REASON. I'm always reminded of the scene wherein Sasuke slapped the apple out of Sakura's hand. Aggghhhh.
Yeah, Kakashi isn't dead... I'm quite sure of it, but Kishi faking people out this way and then dragging it out is pretty uncool as well.
Especially considering everything that's going on with Konoha. I mean, if you need to have your readers on pins and needles cause they're an endless training sequence going on, but when you actually have something INTERESTING to write.... why? Why toy with Kakashi's life like this?
And I like the close-since-forever-ago thing... it annoys me how half the time, he makes girls have feelings for a guy for NO GOOD REASON. I'm always reminded of the scene wherein Sasuke slapped the apple out of Sakura's hand. Aggghhhh.
The whole arc was just poorly reasoned. I thought Naruto's endless training sessions spliced alongside the utter destruction of Konoha made Naruto's training seem really frivolous, but now that we're told Pein has done very little damage (seemingly... by some ridiculous miracle), that seems frivolous, too, thus rendering the entire arc kinda pointless all the way around.
I really think you just nailed it: what we've seen up until now was just padded filler to allow for time for Naruto to train. But see, not being an eight-year-old boy, I don't care about Naruto's damn training; SURELY there could have been some better way of giving Naruto the power he needed for this fight without wasting so much time.
The whole arc was just poorly reasoned. I thought Naruto's endless training sessions spliced alongside the utter destruction of Konoha made Naruto's training seem really frivolous, but now that we're told Pein has done very little damage (seemingly... by some ridiculous miracle), that seems frivolous, too, thus rendering the entire arc kinda pointless all the way around.
See, I actually thought having actually interesting things going on while Naruto was training worked and felt real - right up until Pain did no damage. Having bad things happen to your friends while you're off trying to get stronger is classic - that his friends are now totally fine and Naruto is showing up just right in the nick of time makes it all feel totally cheap.
But see, not being an eight-year-old boy, I don't care about Naruto's damn training; SURELY there could have been some better way of giving Naruto the power he needed for this fight without wasting so much time.
Or how about PEOPLE ACTUALLY DIE and then you have that bitter irony of Naruto training and having fun while Konoha is getting wrecked? And I don't think even 8 year old boys care about the training sequences.
Konan may die, but it's not going to be because of Pain, and I imagine if that happened, he'd go a wee bit crazy.
That seems quite likely. Kishi claims Pein is "emotionless" (obviously very untrue); Konan seems pretty blatantly the key to his humanity. There'd be no point in establishing them as friends since they were children, otherwise.
If he'd just wanted to write about a guy and some hot chick who pined after him, he's shown he feels no compulsion to establish a reason why a girl should actually give a damn about a guy (Karin and Sasuke come to mind here), so Konan and Pein being close since forever ago makes me think this is relevant to their human sides+Pein's eventual breakdown+their deaths.
And I like the close-since-forever-ago thing... it annoys me how half the time, he makes girls have feelings for a guy for NO GOOD REASON. I'm always reminded of the scene wherein Sasuke slapped the apple out of Sakura's hand. Aggghhhh.
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Especially considering everything that's going on with Konoha. I mean, if you need to have your readers on pins and needles cause they're an endless training sequence going on, but when you actually have something INTERESTING to write.... why? Why toy with Kakashi's life like this?
And I like the close-since-forever-ago thing... it annoys me how half the time, he makes girls have feelings for a guy for NO GOOD REASON. I'm always reminded of the scene wherein Sasuke slapped the apple out of Sakura's hand. Aggghhhh.
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I really think you just nailed it: what we've seen up until now was just padded filler to allow for time for Naruto to train. But see, not being an eight-year-old boy, I don't care about Naruto's damn training; SURELY there could have been some better way of giving Naruto the power he needed for this fight without wasting so much time.
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See, I actually thought having actually interesting things going on while Naruto was training worked and felt real - right up until Pain did no damage. Having bad things happen to your friends while you're off trying to get stronger is classic - that his friends are now totally fine and Naruto is showing up just right in the nick of time makes it all feel totally cheap.
But see, not being an eight-year-old boy, I don't care about Naruto's damn training; SURELY there could have been some better way of giving Naruto the power he needed for this fight without wasting so much time.
Or how about PEOPLE ACTUALLY DIE and then you have that bitter irony of Naruto training and having fun while Konoha is getting wrecked? And I don't think even 8 year old boys care about the training sequences.
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