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peachtales January 23 2009, 13:55:43 UTC
Thank you for posting that. I am so very happy to see it, in writing.

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ladystarblade January 23 2009, 14:02:43 UTC
*pumps fist in the air* Now *that's* what I'm talking about.

This, the executive order banning torture, closing Gitmo, the executive pay freezes (the age of "Do as I say, not as I do" just might finally be done), and grinning like a loon whenever I read 'President Obama'...it's been a good three days.

Of course, that's not stopping a group of women in my office from dissecting every move of those three days and criticizing every one...did you know that Obama plans to release hundreds of terrorists onto our city streets? They insist it's true! *headdesk*

But yes, this is a beautiful statement.

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arthwollipot January 23 2009, 14:05:30 UTC
The book Freakonomics shows a correlation between Roe Vs. Wade and the sudden drop in crime in US cities in the 90s.

Basically, the kids that were more likely to grow up into criminals (unwanted children born to young, underprivileged unwed mothers) were not being born. The women who were most likely to seek abortion were the ones whose children were at most risk of committing crimes when they were older.

I don't believe that abortion should be a woman's first choice, but where necessary it's important that it be legal and safe.

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filkertom January 23 2009, 14:13:39 UTC
That's a very slippery slope to engage in. In fact, when Bill Bennett made a similar argument a couple of years ago, in the most offensive manner possible, the Freakonomics blog spoke on the very thing. Kinds strangely, actually.

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realinterrobang January 23 2009, 15:29:50 UTC
Many women who have abortions already have children, so I'm not entirely sure Freakonomics was really onto anything. I'm also not entirely sure that young, unwed, impoverished women are more likely to have abortions than not. I was kind of under the impression based on what reading I'd done that the women most likely to have abortions in the US were women with resources (e.g. wealthier women, probably married). Certainly there's a strong correlation between poverty and lack of access to abortion ( ... )

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pandoradeloeste January 23 2009, 17:28:46 UTC
Many women who have abortions already have children, so I'm not entirely sure Freakonomics was really onto anything. I'm also not entirely sure that young, unwed, impoverished women are more likely to have abortions than not. I was kind of under the impression based on what reading I'd done that the women most likely to have abortions in the US were women with resources (e.g. wealthier women, probably married). Certainly there's a strong correlation between poverty and lack of access to abortion.

A few years ago I took the volunteer training to be a Planned Parenthood counselor/escort/nonspecific person-at-arms, and as part of our orientation we learned that a significant portion of PP's patients (don't remember if it was a majority, but certainly lots of them) are married women who already have all the kids they can handle and whose birth control didn't work.

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talonvaki January 23 2009, 14:25:13 UTC
That's MY president who said that!

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technoshaman January 23 2009, 14:45:45 UTC
holy CRAP. +1,000,000,000,000!!!!1111one!

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