a: but you are b; i know, but it's so insanely ridiculous. It's like, oh yeah, Charlie's in Fightstar now, he's only been in Fightstar, he never went to school with Harry. It's deying who he is. A lot of people got into Fightstar because he was in Busted. c: So why mod at all? Why only have 2 mods? If you simply must moderate everything then why only have two?
It is insanely ridiculous and I have admitted that to you a hundred times and you were fine with it. I explained to you that I was an elitist bitch and you agreed and you were fine with it. If you had a problem then you should've said something.
I am certainly NOT denying who Charlie is. Of course he was in Busted and of course he went to school with Harry but that has absolutely nothing to do with Fightstar. The whole idea behind my Fightstarslash was that it was only about Fightstar and nothing else.
I mod because this is my community. What? Just because I have a life means I can't be a moderator of my own community? Where's the sense in that?! And the reason we only have two is because nobody has offered to take up the position because nobody else has a problem with how things are done here.
I didn't then cause I thought, oh, okay it's nothing. Well, now I am. I am now, cause it is now.
It can't all be about Fightstar all the time. There is not a single slash community that exists that doesn't have a crossover. So what's wrong with posting a fic with any of them and any of Mcfly? Surely they've all met, not just met Charlie. What's wrong with that?
That's not what I meant at all. I'm on about the whole, everything must be moderated thing. With most communities, things are posted automatically, or if they are mod'd then it's done in the same day. Sure;ly it's been long enough from whatever happened with the Fightstar forums to just put an end to all of it.
We do have crossovers. Just not with teenie boybands. It was a stipulation when this place was set up. It's an elitist community and always has been hence the strict entry and the moderated posts. As for the forum thing - the dust probably has settled but the closed community has worked for a lot of the members here and we're comfortable knowing that we can work away from the teenies who cross Fightstar with McFly because they loved Busted and don't really like Fightstar's music but support them because "OMG! Charlie's lyk so hott!" And it can be all about Fightstar all the time because it's my community. Everyone who writes and comments supports that decision because they feel the same way.
I'm a snob. End of. Always have been. Always will be.
Fair enough; you have a problem now but I just wish you'd have come to me beforehand. BUT, if you feel stifled by the rules here then that's fine... You shouldn't stay part of a community that you don't feel comfortable.
My baby, she's done a little drabble, of Omar and Dave from Son Of Dork. It's brillaint, it's dark and there's not even a mention of Charlie. But will it be posted here? No, because of that exact reason. People are able to like both, to write both and not be a teeny. Look at me. I like both, I write for both. I liked Charlie in Busted, I started listening to Fightstar because of him. And because of that, I find what you just say insulting. Once again, there's that elitism.
Not everyone likes elitism. I set it up for people that don't like elitism, for people that would be auto-rejected from here just because of what they like. It's an alternative. I don't see why there's anything wrong with that.
What I said wasn't aimed at you. I was talking about the teenies that don't like Fightstar's music. They go to the gigs and buy the CDs because they still have this affinity to Charlie because of Busted. It has fuck-all to do with the music. They don't like the music. They do it all for Charlie Simpson. Those are the teenies I was talking about. If you feel insulted by that then I'm sorry but I'm entitled to an opinion.
Yeah; not everybody likes elitism. If that's the case, then this isn't the community for them. I've certainly never suggested anything else.
I think you've misunderstood why I'm upset. I'm not mad at you for setting up your own community. That's no bother to me. I'm irritated by the underhandedness. You couldn't just come forward and tell me you were feeling uncomfortable here so you were setting up your own FightstarSlash. You had to go behind my back... True, you don't owe me anything but I just would've appreciated a little honesty if you were that unhappy here.
Ok, I get what you mean now. Personally I wouldn't waste my money on something I didn't like, so once again teenies are stupid.
I know
I didn't know how to say it. How exactly was I meant to? I didn't know how. It's not that I'm unhappy, it's just.. elitism makes me uncomfortable. The perfect example being this post. I made it to post the quote and it to ask for people's opinions on who I could pair Charlie with. Yet, because I mentioned I'd even consider pairing Charlie with his brother, there's like five comments against that. They skip over the whole point of the post and just see that. I changed my mind about it (which has fuck all to do with the objections, though I actually considered doing it to spite the objections). That specific thing was the main reason I set it up. It just pissed me off that everyone picked up on that little thing and every response was 'eww no, I know them it would be wrong' One doing it fine, two, ok. Everyone, no.
But we had a perfectly fine discussion about how I, personally, couldn't pair Charlie with boyband members anymore and gave you a list of loads of people that I thought would be good. We had a pretty good chat about it, I thought.
Pairing Charlie with Will was a problem for me because I know Will. I know that I probably flew off the handle a little - I am guilty of that a lot of the time. And Lana [the other person who commented] was just saying the same thing; that she also knows Will and it would just be weird. I'm sorry if you felt we ignored the topic of the original post but it just struck a nerve.
And like I said, I thought we'd already had a pretty good brainstorming of people by that point...
I know we did. In fact, I thank you for it, it gave me some ideas.
I know it did. When I posted it I was searching my mind for the first people that came to mind and he was one of them. Yeah it did. At the time he was one of the first people that came to mind (and although I found my list I mentioned and he wasn't even on it and he hasn't been added to it) I still feel a bit... like I was got at for even mentioning it. I don't get why it struck such a big nerve though.
I'm really glad you found that list of yours!! *g* And I'm glad our little brainstorming session got more people added to it.
The reason it struck a nerve [for me] is that I enjoy slashing rockstars and TV stars and whoever because it's fantasy. I don't know these people and it's completely harmless but I would never slash any of my real life friends because it would just be too fucking weird. I know Will and therefore, it would be too fucking weird to see/read him in a slash situation.
I started brigadeslash before I met Will but since meeting him and getting to know him a little; it's dead. Nobody's updated since 30/08/05 - I am not even joking. I cannot do it. That's why it struck a nerve. It's different for different people, I guess... x
Yeah, of course some will be posted to mine and not here and some will be posted here. :D Plus, cause I choose to do all of Busted it'll be 15 fics each then... the rest will be.. I haven't decided yet.
ohhh, now it makes sense. See, I thought you'd only met him and it was an I've met him and talked to him a bit. I just didn't think it was that close :[
Sorry, I should've been a bit clearer about that. Lana pretty much went on tour with them on this most recent jaunt and she knows Plant really well. I know Fim [the drummer] a lot more than I know Will but she introduced me to Will and we had a really good night out and then we met up again a couple of weeks later and had a fucking riot of a night in Wrexham so... Yeah...
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a: i don't like being told what to do
b: I don't like the restriction
c: it takes forever to get things posted due to moderation
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b. You knew about it when you joined.
c. I have a FULL TIME JOB!!
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b; i know, but it's so insanely ridiculous. It's like, oh yeah, Charlie's in Fightstar now, he's only been in Fightstar, he never went to school with Harry. It's deying who he is. A lot of people got into Fightstar because he was in Busted.
c: So why mod at all? Why only have 2 mods? If you simply must moderate everything then why only have two?
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I am certainly NOT denying who Charlie is. Of course he was in Busted and of course he went to school with Harry but that has absolutely nothing to do with Fightstar. The whole idea behind my Fightstarslash was that it was only about Fightstar and nothing else.
I mod because this is my community. What? Just because I have a life means I can't be a moderator of my own community? Where's the sense in that?! And the reason we only have two is because nobody has offered to take up the position because nobody else has a problem with how things are done here.
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It can't all be about Fightstar all the time. There is not a single slash community that exists that doesn't have a crossover. So what's wrong with posting a fic with any of them and any of Mcfly? Surely they've all met, not just met Charlie. What's wrong with that?
That's not what I meant at all. I'm on about the whole, everything must be moderated thing. With most communities, things are posted automatically, or if they are mod'd then it's done in the same day. Sure;ly it's been long enough from whatever happened with the Fightstar forums to just put an end to all of it.
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As for the forum thing - the dust probably has settled but the closed community has worked for a lot of the members here and we're comfortable knowing that we can work away from the teenies who cross Fightstar with McFly because they loved Busted and don't really like Fightstar's music but support them because "OMG! Charlie's lyk so hott!"
And it can be all about Fightstar all the time because it's my community. Everyone who writes and comments supports that decision because they feel the same way.
I'm a snob. End of. Always have been. Always will be.
Fair enough; you have a problem now but I just wish you'd have come to me beforehand. BUT, if you feel stifled by the rules here then that's fine... You shouldn't stay part of a community that you don't feel comfortable.
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People are able to like both, to write both and not be a teeny. Look at me. I like both, I write for both. I liked Charlie in Busted, I started listening to Fightstar because of him. And because of that, I find what you just say insulting.
Once again, there's that elitism.
Not everyone likes elitism. I set it up for people that don't like elitism, for people that would be auto-rejected from here just because of what they like. It's an alternative. I don't see why there's anything wrong with that.
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Yeah; not everybody likes elitism. If that's the case, then this isn't the community for them. I've certainly never suggested anything else.
I think you've misunderstood why I'm upset. I'm not mad at you for setting up your own community. That's no bother to me. I'm irritated by the underhandedness. You couldn't just come forward and tell me you were feeling uncomfortable here so you were setting up your own FightstarSlash. You had to go behind my back... True, you don't owe me anything but I just would've appreciated a little honesty if you were that unhappy here.
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I know
I didn't know how to say it. How exactly was I meant to? I didn't know how. It's not that I'm unhappy, it's just.. elitism makes me uncomfortable. The perfect example being this post. I made it to post the quote and it to ask for people's opinions on who I could pair Charlie with. Yet, because I mentioned I'd even consider pairing Charlie with his brother, there's like five comments against that. They skip over the whole point of the post and just see that. I changed my mind about it (which has fuck all to do with the objections, though I actually considered doing it to spite the objections). That specific thing was the main reason I set it up. It just pissed me off that everyone picked up on that little thing and every response was 'eww no, I know them it would be wrong' One doing it fine, two, ok. Everyone, no.
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Pairing Charlie with Will was a problem for me because I know Will. I know that I probably flew off the handle a little - I am guilty of that a lot of the time. And Lana [the other person who commented] was just saying the same thing; that she also knows Will and it would just be weird. I'm sorry if you felt we ignored the topic of the original post but it just struck a nerve.
And like I said, I thought we'd already had a pretty good brainstorming of people by that point...
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I know it did. When I posted it I was searching my mind for the first people that came to mind and he was one of them. Yeah it did. At the time he was one of the first people that came to mind (and although I found my list I mentioned and he wasn't even on it and he hasn't been added to it) I still feel a bit... like I was got at for even mentioning it. I don't get why it struck such a big nerve though.
Yeah, we did. I've quite a list now.
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And I'm glad our little brainstorming session got more people added to it.
The reason it struck a nerve [for me] is that I enjoy slashing rockstars and TV stars and whoever because it's fantasy. I don't know these people and it's completely harmless but I would never slash any of my real life friends because it would just be too fucking weird. I know Will and therefore, it would be too fucking weird to see/read him in a slash situation.
I started brigadeslash before I met Will but since meeting him and getting to know him a little; it's dead. Nobody's updated since 30/08/05 - I am not even joking. I cannot do it. That's why it struck a nerve. It's different for different people, I guess... x
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ohhh, now it makes sense. See, I thought you'd only met him and it was an I've met him and talked to him a bit. I just didn't think it was that close :[
Wow.. that's... really dead :( It is
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And yep; I murdered it!! LOL! x
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Heeheee xx
I'm sorry that I seemed underhanded and all about this whole thing, I hope we're ok ;[ xxx
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