How to get cut.

May 27, 2012 13:21

Argue that the Vietnam War was just and not-at-all imperialistic by writing, in very graphic detail, accounts of VC violence against innocent children. Also, by telling me how so very important American "heroism" is that it completely justified the rape, evisceration, and bombing of my relatives.

Get.

The.

Fuck.

OUT.

personal-to-remember, i iz dealin'

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fuyuhimi June 2 2012, 23:04:11 UTC
And *then* I checked if that thread is somewhere nearby (I tend to dig with the internets, mostly a desire to understand everything in context) - and I was just 'wow. Well, given this is who it's coming from, I don't find myself surprised'. ;/

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fig_aruna June 3 2012, 00:09:31 UTC
Sigh. I knew you'd find it and say that, sadlol.

So, so wrong on so, so many levels...

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fig_aruna June 3 2012, 00:11:25 UTC
Also, thank you for checking in with me. It, unsurprisingly, fucked me up (information of which the other party was definitely aware). That was the dropping point for me.

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fuyuhimi June 3 2012, 11:44:38 UTC
You're welcome, I always try to (and was wondering I was a bit late, which I wouldn't want to).

I hope you're feeling better, if you want to talk, I'm sure I can drop by the Gmail chat or whichever would be preferrable? I don't want to leave you alone, and you should in no way be required to deal with such a mess alone. Coming from a long-term friend it's such a stab.

<3 to you.

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fig_aruna June 4 2012, 04:38:32 UTC
Yeah, actually, a gchat sometime would be cool. :) But I'm so doggone busy these days, I fear scheduling a time might be difficult... :( But we can try!

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fuyuhimi June 4 2012, 15:33:12 UTC
Don't worry, I'm also rather busy (ahem, school and surviving. But given how much more has the latter been tiring, I count it as valid :P). I'm sure we can figure something out though. It doesn't have to be *right now*, you know (I don't feel it fair to control others' time like that, as an additional reason), important is, if you want to chat, the offer is open. :3

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fig_aruna June 5 2012, 05:08:11 UTC
Yeah, chatting would still be cool. :)

I'm under water, basically, for the rest of the week, but maybe some point next week.

I forgot what hours are "available to talk time" for you. I tend to be conscious between 9:00am and 11:00pm, but, yunno. Scheduling, ack. sadlol.

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fuyuhimi June 5 2012, 11:46:09 UTC
Next week sounds fine, this one is super hectical for me. Tend to be conscious somewhen around 12 PM (or as in, that hour starting with noon :P) and 1 AM (as in, that night hour :P) this (GMT+1) time, basically. (I again forgot your time zone, I apologize. This is either asking, or saying I need to check your infos more. :D). You're right that scheduling can be rather... complicated, ack.

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fig_aruna June 5 2012, 14:52:14 UTC
I'm CST. :) And, ha. No worries about remembering. I quite shamelessly forgot as well. :P

I forgot to mention that I'm working full-time now (10am-6pm, CST), so that makes things even more difficult. :( But we'll keep trying :D

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fuyuhimi June 3 2012, 11:46:49 UTC
(bit sad lol) I'm so predictable.

Yeah, it is. I really don't grok why people glorify wars and violence in them so much. There's nothing pretty about wars, that amount of apologetism is horrifying and sadly, you never know who it'll come from. ;/

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fig_aruna June 4 2012, 04:37:08 UTC
If you're into macho heroism and saving people who pathetically no agency and just exist to be victimized, then, yes. Glorification of war and a perverse pride about military violence. It's galling at best, and disgusting at worst. With my personal family history, my reactions tend to fall on the disgust side of the spectrum...

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fuyuhimi June 4 2012, 15:31:05 UTC
*nods* My *personal* reactions tend to be complicated.
I'm rather influenced by C-PTSD/PTSD these days, so I jump even at things that'd use to let me be calm, analytic, not blinking, or at least not so deeply disturbed, back then? Me being prone to remembering a lot of things with how they *looked* and having vivid imagination probably doesn't help much with hearing those war stories, to feel not disgusted.

I think in a way, it may be better - and certainly *is* better to be repulsed and horrified by violations to people than be a twad advocating those violations, me thinks.

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fig_aruna June 5 2012, 05:05:41 UTC
Agreed. But I'm sorry about the his descriptions triggering you... I should have warned. :(

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fuyuhimi June 5 2012, 11:42:54 UTC
Nah, don't worry, that was a general-disclaimer line up there, it wasn't this concrete conversation that'd trigger me (it just pissed me off. HIS fault, not yours. ;) ) You're quite fine, Figs.

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